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Post by West Acton on Aug 14, 2019 12:14:48 GMT
U18s walk off pitch over racism
Well done boys, club and management out there for taking stand
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Aug 14, 2019 13:56:30 GMT
Apparently this was ten days ago. Amazing how this has been kept quiet
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Post by itsonlyagame on Aug 14, 2019 14:11:16 GMT
Racism at any level is inexcusable but at an under 18s match ffs. Some people really shouldn’t be allowed to contribute to the gene pool.
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Post by BrightonR on Aug 14, 2019 14:53:16 GMT
Just seen this on twitter. Like CCJ, I’m astonished that this hasn’t been mentioned well before now.
Makes you wonder just how long it’s going to take to eradicate these disgusting people.
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Post by Corbray on Aug 14, 2019 15:08:03 GMT
disgusting, i truly don't understand how anyone can be judged instantly by the colour of their skin it honestly baffles me how idiots have that mindset!
well done for walking off, if the senior squad did it in league game i'd back them fully as well. no place for racism in the world
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Post by esoxlucius on Aug 14, 2019 15:56:07 GMT
It appears that Lee Hoos is already in conversation with the English FA over this so maybe it was being kept quiet whilst the proceedings were being set up and preliminary statements taken?
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Post by coneysboots on Aug 14, 2019 15:57:33 GMT
UEFA don’t seemed arsed about it. Fine them a couple of grand and tell them not to do it again. Should be harsher punishment for this. Few hundred grand fine, or points deduction for their first team in whatever league they’re in.
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Post by shepherdsmush on Aug 15, 2019 9:20:19 GMT
Have to applaud everyone at the club for the action taken.
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Post by James1979 on Aug 15, 2019 14:33:34 GMT
Whilst Chelsea fans racially abuse their own player on twitter. They really are a bunch of horrible cunts.
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Post by esoxlucius on Aug 15, 2019 15:34:56 GMT
Whilst Chelsea fans racially abuse their own player on twitter. They really are a bunch of horrible cunts. Do you ever have a nose about on "The Shed End" forum? Some proper oxygen thieves posting on there.
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Post by James1979 on Aug 15, 2019 16:56:53 GMT
Whilst Chelsea fans racially abuse their own player on twitter. They really are a bunch of horrible cunts. Do you ever have a nose about on "The Shed End" forum? Some proper oxygen thieves posting on there. Try not the to. I’m sure we all have Chelsea mates and they are not like that but as a club they have always been, in general, full of the slime of humanity.
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Post by West Acton on Aug 15, 2019 17:15:38 GMT
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Post by BrightonR on Aug 15, 2019 17:58:46 GMT
Oh, how classy. 😡
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Post by dunraven on Aug 16, 2019 13:33:15 GMT
Did I read somewhere that it was the oppo players being racist? I did wonder how many fans could be at a game like that.
The QPR under 18s i'm on about, not Chelsea
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Post by alanwycombe on Aug 16, 2019 17:25:37 GMT
Frank Lampard "that's not what this club is about" Frank mate, that's what Chelscum has been about since around 1970.
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Post by West Acton on Aug 16, 2019 17:30:16 GMT
Frank Lampard "that's not what this club is about" Frank mate, that's what Chelscum has been about since around 1970. must have forgotten his best mates behaviour in the bush which his club endorsed and defended You reap what you sow
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Post by itsonlyagame on Aug 16, 2019 21:05:24 GMT
Did I read somewhere that it was the oppo players being racist? I did wonder how many fans could be at a game like that. The QPR under 18s i'm on about, not Chelsea Statement from our club says it was their players who were making monkey noises. They have responded by saying it was in retaliation for being spat at by one of our players. Without knowing what happened, if I was one of the Spanish team facing allegations of racism, it’s the sort of story I’d make up with my teammates too, to try and limit punishment. Hopefully it will all come out in the wash.
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Post by acricketer on Aug 16, 2019 21:36:44 GMT
Made up bullshit. weaseling out of blame.
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 9, 2019 20:35:41 GMT
England team to walk off pitch if racially abusedEuro 2020 qualifying: Uefa would scramble emergency panel should England walk off in face of racism Walking off the field would be unprecedented in any Uefa competition and The Independent understands there are currently no guidelines in place specifically to deal with such an event By Lawrence Ostlere @lawrenceostlere 6 hours ago Uefa would be forced to convene an emergency panel should the England team decide to ignore the governing body’s three-step protocol and walk off the pitch in the face of racism during their upcoming Euro 2020 qualifiers in Czech Republic and Bulgaria. The game in Sofia next Monday will be played in front of a reduced crowd after Bulgaria were found guilty of racist behaviour during their June qualifiers against the Czech Republic and Kosovo, while several black England players were abused during a 5-1 win over Montenegro in Podgorica earlier this year. The squad held a meeting on Monday, helmed by the captain Harry Kane, to discuss what to do in the face of racist abuse from the stands, and the Chelsea forward Tammy Abraham revealed they would be prepared to ignore Uefa procedure which leaves responsibility with the referee to take matters into their own hands. Walking off the field would be unprecedented in any Uefa competition and The Independent understands there are currently no guidelines in place specifically to deal with such an event. It means Uefa would turn to article 69.01 of its regulations which covers “unforeseen circumstances” or cases of “force majeure”, and states: “Matters... will be decided by the Uefa Emergency Panel, or if not possible due to time constraints, by the Uefa President, or, in his absence, by the Uefa General Secretary.” The regulations add that any decision made by the emergency panel would be final and not subject to an appeal. Abraham suggested that Uefa’s three-step protocol was not strong enough and that “one strike” should be enough, although he said that England will attempt to follow the process and only “make a decision” if required. “We’ve touched base on how to deal with the situation,” he said. “Harry Kane even said that if it happens and we’re not happy with it, we speak to player and if he’s not happy, we all come off the pitch together. It’s a team thing. Don’t isolate one person, we’re a whole team. If it happens to one of us, it happens to all of us. “We did speak about that. Harry Kane did ask the question about instead of going through the three steps, if we decide that we want to stop the game and we want to stop the game – no matter what the score is – if we’re not happy with it, as a team we’ll decide whether or not to stay on the pitch. “I do [think it could happen]. Watching the gaffer speaking yesterday, he was quite keen on putting a stop to it. No one wants it in football. It’s not just affecting one person, it’s affecting the team. It’s a team decision if we decide in the end that we don’t want to play this game anymore because of what’s going on, we’ll come off as a team.” www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/international/uefa-euro-2020-qualifying-england-czech-republic-bulgaria-racism-emergency-panel-a9149071.html
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Post by itsonlyagame on Oct 9, 2019 20:57:08 GMT
It’s beyond comprehension why these countries aren’t dealt with more severely. UEFA and FIFA are a fucking disgrace.
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Post by jfrabbit on Oct 9, 2019 21:47:33 GMT
100% agree with the stance but what happens if England are 2 or 3-0 up and some morons start chanting?
Why walk off? Kill them by battering them on the pitch.
Can England forfeit a game by walking off if it's not in the FIFA rules?
Severe action needs to be handed down to these shit bags.
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Post by acricketer on Oct 9, 2019 22:32:09 GMT
I understand the principle at stake. The action of walking off the pitch is acknowledgement of the abuse and it rewards the abusers because they provoked a reaction.
Either don't turn up in the first place if there are doubts or refuse to play against that country in the future.
Stay on the pitch for the fans who travelled hundreds of miles to support you. Be an example through sportsmanship and showing your talent. Sticks and stones and all that..
I appreciate that if the authorities fail to act then teams may feel that they have to make a stand. The fact that England are contemplating this action is an indictment of the ruling body's efforts to eradicate this from the game.
South Africa was boycotted for Apartheid, this can work on a smaller scale if FIFA excommunicated countries that failed to show proper respect.
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 9, 2019 23:35:17 GMT
I agree. This threat is aimed just as much at the morally bankrupt governing bodies as it is the racist morons. FIFA / UEFA have long had the power to eradicate this scourge had they not had their corrupt snouts in the trough. Ban countries until they get their houses in order; play games behind closed doors; deduct points etc are all deterrents and sanctions they should but have failed to implement. The way they’re panicking and scrambling about now for a contingency just proves the point.
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Post by West Acton on Oct 10, 2019 7:17:43 GMT
Until someone takes drastic action nothing will change so in full support of them walking. Would put huge pressure on Uefa to actually take it seriously
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Post by Corbray on Oct 10, 2019 7:29:11 GMT
100% agree with the stance but what happens if England are 2 or 3-0 up and some morons start chanting? Why walk off? Kill them by battering them on the pitch. Can England forfeit a game by walking off if it's not in the FIFA rules? Severe action needs to be handed down to these shit bags. we battered montenegro despite racial abuse and no real punishment happened. the only acceptable thing uefa can do to teams that have fans that racially abuse players is points deductions, no fan really cares if their team/country gets a fine of x amount as it doesn't really effect their team but if there was points deductions then it'd actually show the zero tolerance policy that uefa constantly bangs on about. i'd fully support england walking off the pitch because racism is unacceptable and there needs to be a firm stance against it. its disgusting behaviour and uefa is actually doing very little to stand against it
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Post by itsonlyagame on Oct 10, 2019 8:28:52 GMT
Severe financial penalties and points deductions would have an effect. Although fines don’t affect the fans directly, if a countries football association is getting hammered with severe financial penalties, they’ll soon start doing more to get their house in order. Stricter stewarding, ejecting and banning fans etc. Things that we in the UK have been doing for years. As Stan says though, the powers that be are only concerned with feathering their own nests. Look at that cunt Platini and that little weasel Blatter. They exemplify what those corrupt organisations are all about.
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Post by West Acton on Oct 10, 2019 9:12:01 GMT
Kicking sides out qualifying would stop it overnight
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Post by jfrabbit on Oct 10, 2019 10:20:27 GMT
100% agree with the stance but what happens if England are 2 or 3-0 up and some morons start chanting? Why walk off? Kill them by battering them on the pitch. Can England forfeit a game by walking off if it's not in the FIFA rules? Severe action needs to be handed down to these shit bags. we battered montenegro despite racial abuse and no real punishment happened. the only acceptable thing uefa can do to teams that have fans that racially abuse players is points deductions, no fan really cares if their team/country gets a fine of x amount as it doesn't really effect their team but if there was points deductions then it'd actually show the zero tolerance policy that uefa constantly bangs on about. i'd fully support england walking off the pitch because racism is unacceptable and there needs to be a firm stance against it. its disgusting behaviour and uefa is actually doing very little to stand against it Then I can see the scenario of 'it wasn't our fans. It was others trying to get us in trouble' How do you prove things like that?
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Post by esoxlucius on Oct 10, 2019 10:39:58 GMT
we battered montenegro despite racial abuse and no real punishment happened. the only acceptable thing uefa can do to teams that have fans that racially abuse players is points deductions, no fan really cares if their team/country gets a fine of x amount as it doesn't really effect their team but if there was points deductions then it'd actually show the zero tolerance policy that uefa constantly bangs on about. i'd fully support england walking off the pitch because racism is unacceptable and there needs to be a firm stance against it. its disgusting behaviour and uefa is actually doing very little to stand against it Then I can see the scenario of 'it wasn't our fans. It was others trying to get us in trouble' How do you prove things like that? Film & sound equipment are usually in abundance at all international games these days.
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Post by Corbray on Oct 10, 2019 10:47:00 GMT
we battered montenegro despite racial abuse and no real punishment happened. the only acceptable thing uefa can do to teams that have fans that racially abuse players is points deductions, no fan really cares if their team/country gets a fine of x amount as it doesn't really effect their team but if there was points deductions then it'd actually show the zero tolerance policy that uefa constantly bangs on about. i'd fully support england walking off the pitch because racism is unacceptable and there needs to be a firm stance against it. its disgusting behaviour and uefa is actually doing very little to stand against it Then I can see the scenario of 'it wasn't our fans. It was others trying to get us in trouble' How do you prove things like that? cameras have already spotted people racially abusing players already at various games and then they've been tracked down by the police. if say, a group of leeds fans for example sat in our home end wearing qpr shirts and then stood up and started doing monkey chants at leeds players to get us in trouble it wouldn't be hard for the police to work out that it was leeds fans trying to masquerade as qpr fans all along. there could even be a scooby doo like reveal were the police rip off the qpr shirt and reveal a leeds top underneath
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