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Post by hal9thou on Mar 15, 2024 19:55:26 GMT
Cheers Wests.
I suspect that this is simply part of a plan to get more minor shareholders on board ie along the lines CN referred to at the recent meeting.
The reality of any move or rebuild depends to a very large extent on the club's relationship with Hammersmith, which they are seeking to repair.
In other words don't hold your breath.
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Post by Bill on Mar 15, 2024 20:02:49 GMT
Throw in a mosque at the scrubs or Heston and its being stamped as we read this.
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Post by 2Loftus on Mar 15, 2024 20:04:00 GMT
From the article...
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Post by Bill on Mar 15, 2024 20:07:32 GMT
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Post by Corbray on Mar 15, 2024 22:27:44 GMT
i love LR for sentimental reasons but aside from the closeness to the pitch and history it's an awful stadium. cramped to an uncomfortable knee killing degree, ugly, poor facilities, even worse kiosks, toilets that belong in a park royal petrol station and delapidated.
we certainly need an upgrade but I do worry how feasible that actually is unless we build upwards. a 25-28k seater stadium would probably do us.
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Post by West Acton on Mar 16, 2024 7:35:06 GMT
i love LR for sentimental reasons but aside from the closeness to the pitch and history it's an awful stadium. cramped to an uncomfortable knee killing degree, ugly, poor facilities, even worse kiosks, toilets that belong in a park royal petrol station and delapidated. we certainly need an upgrade but I do worry how feasible that actually is unless we build upwards. a 25-28k seater stadium would probably do us. using toilets ellersie road at half time is literally like spending 15mins in Hell getting there and back. Iin the ideal world 25k would do us perfect but if staying at Loftus Road in a modern stadium of 18/20k I would consider that. Anything above 25k would be a waste as not sure we would fill it so leaving where we’re at for ground which is bigger but empty 70% of time don’t make sense. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Mar 16, 2024 8:57:01 GMT
Forget about developing or redeveloping LR - the most definite case of ‘you wouldn’t start from here’ that you’ll ever see. The best we could hope for is more and better toilets and bars - they could deliver that easily and we deserve it. Beyond that, getting more legroom, removing the roof supports and increasing capacity is nigh on impossible and certainly too expensive for the return. If you knock the place down and start again no way these days will you ever get Planning for a stadium in a residential area with limited and restricted access and no concourse area for dispersal. FFS build more bogs and invest in getting us back to the money.
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Post by Bill on Mar 16, 2024 11:02:50 GMT
Summer is coming Alan,plans are ahead of schedule.
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Post by Bill on Mar 16, 2024 14:36:50 GMT
Reported north american consortium buying the fakes interesting.
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Post by spongeparr on Mar 16, 2024 19:46:16 GMT
i love LR for sentimental reasons but aside from the closeness to the pitch and history it's an awful stadium. cramped to an uncomfortable knee killing degree, ugly, poor facilities, even worse kiosks, toilets that belong in a park royal petrol station and delapidated. we certainly need an upgrade but I do worry how feasible that actually is unless we build upwards. a 25-28k seater stadium would probably do us. using toilets ellersie road at half time is literally like spending 15mins in Hell getting there and back. Iin the ideal world 25k would do us perfect but if staying at Loftus Road in a modern stadium of 18/20k I would consider that. Anything above 25k would be a waste as not sure we would fill it so leaving where we’re at for ground which is bigger but empty 70% of time don’t make sense. I'd take a 30k seater. Look at our attendance this year, despite being shit and us have lower tier, have been brilliant. That includes how much restricted view?! I think our fan base is bigger than we see. Just because our shite but ours, stadium is small, doesn't mean that's the limit of QPR. We have been statistically around 25th highest ranked team in England. 30k stadium is around 30th biggest. Not unreasonable, and we certainly shouldn't let ambition hold us back. For the redevelopment, don't forget the council included LR in their footblprints. Ruben said that he's been working with the council. Hoos changed his stance on developing LR. They could change where the road runs and then that opens up that whole area. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Mar 16, 2024 19:55:36 GMT
using toilets ellersie road at half time is literally like spending 15mins in Hell getting there and back. Iin the ideal world 25k would do us perfect but if staying at Loftus Road in a modern stadium of 18/20k I would consider that. Anything above 25k would be a waste as not sure we would fill it so leaving where we’re at for ground which is bigger but empty 70% of time don’t make sense. I'd take a 30k seater. Look at our attendance this year, despite being shit and us have lower tier, have been brilliant. That includes how much restricted view?! I think our fan base is bigger than we see. Just because our shite but ours, stadium is small, doesn't mean that's the limit of QPR. We have been statistically around 25th highest ranked team in England. 30k stadium is around 30th biggest. Not unreasonable, and we certainly shouldn't let ambition hold us back. For the redevelopment, don't forget the council included LR in their footblprints. Ruben said that he's been working with the council. Hoos changed his stance on developing LR. They could change where the road runs and then that opens up that whole area. I agree I think you have to factor in many fans stay away because of how uncomfortable the stadium is, no leg room, concourse, toilet queues taking the length of half time. Hell on earth as Westy described it. If all these improvements were made 25k is realistic. Who knows, even up to 30k if things continued to improve on the pitch too, under Marti. Keep in mind we are getting regular full houses even now, under dreadful matchday conditions |
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Post by alanwycombe on Mar 16, 2024 20:07:39 GMT
Take onboard those good points raised but our attendances are steady, rain or shine performance wise, because that’s our fan base. It’s a long time since we attracted the uncommitted and our two biggest rivals have moved forwards - not to mention the ones we like to think of as rivals still doing ok. Also, a new stadium will need to be a multi functional venue - like there’s not plenty around with much better access/location.
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Post by Stanley75 on Mar 16, 2024 20:16:18 GMT
Average attendances are up though, particularly post-Covid. Most home games are now near-sell outs (even under Ainsworth). Pre-pandemic we were averaging 15k
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Post by Rangers77 on Mar 16, 2024 23:27:34 GMT
Building on SAR is surely a possibility... Moving the footprint. Like Spurs. Not sure I like playing away for some five years though.
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Post by alanwycombe on Mar 17, 2024 8:22:16 GMT
Playing away for five years? Hmm…. 👍now there’s a thought😁
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Post by Bill on Mar 17, 2024 9:51:30 GMT
Its happening chaps.
You cant always get what you want but if try sometimes you get what you need.
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Post by alanwycombe on Mar 17, 2024 12:46:15 GMT
Its happening chaps. You cant always get what you want but if try sometimes you get what you need. When will we be told mate? |
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Post by The General on Mar 17, 2024 13:25:43 GMT
Surely they will have to give away shares
To the new investers
They wont invest without gaining shares
Developing LR is a good idea imho
We all love it there we coukd do 25k every match
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Post by The General on Mar 17, 2024 13:58:04 GMT
Dont think 30k is realistic due to the footprint
23 - 25k would be perfect
Presume we share with Fulham or Brentford
How would that work ??
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Post by The General on Mar 17, 2024 13:59:16 GMT
Just waiting for the new investor
Tony Fernandes
Lol you wait it’s gonna happen
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Post by Bill on Mar 17, 2024 14:23:34 GMT
Its happening chaps. You cant always get what you want but if try sometimes you get what you need. When will we be told mate? May/June i reckon. |
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Post by Bill on Mar 17, 2024 14:24:37 GMT
Just waiting for the new investor Tony Fernandes Lol you wait it’s gonna happen Not a chance,partner |
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Post by Bill on Mar 17, 2024 14:25:35 GMT
The yanks are coming.
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Post by alanwycombe on Mar 17, 2024 14:35:02 GMT
Lets hope they’re not like the Glazers |
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Post by Corbray on Mar 17, 2024 14:37:03 GMT
25-28k is probably ideal for us. we're certainly growing as a club and even in my short 7 years as a ST holder i'm seeing a lot more 18-24yos now than i have over the past few years. i'm also seeing more minorities attending games too which shows that the clubs efforts to attract the locals is working.
we'll never be a massive club and tbh i don't want us to be, we have loyal fans and the last thing i wanna see is those loud hipster YouTubers talking about how 'pedro pedro' is an elite winger due to his xG.
any improvements to LR would have to be extensive and as al has pointed out already, very hard to do due to the location of the stadium. it'd be met with opposition and even if given the greenlight would take bloody ages to do.
i don't think it'll happen anytime soon either as we already spent a big wedge on the pitch.
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Post by The General on Mar 17, 2024 14:37:49 GMT
New investment is good hopefully
At least we have ambition again
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Post by Bill on Mar 17, 2024 14:43:02 GMT
Lets hope they’re not like the Glazers Whole new regime could go either way. New stadium,ground share,develop LR thats a non starter for me. Noury,Cifuentes,Goselov already in place. League we are in is of no consequence. Money,money,money. How the supporters come out of it remains to be seen,hopefully good but i would'nt put my house on it. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Mar 17, 2024 14:54:34 GMT
Invest in the team, that will give quickest return on investment by getting us up the ladder. Can only talk about Ellerslie but separate the bogs from the bars and you remove the pinch points. Extend the toilets - not expensive - and we’re moving in the right direction. Could have been done years ago.
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Post by Bill on Mar 17, 2024 15:18:51 GMT
Invest in the team, that will give quickest return on investment by getting us up the ladder. Can only talk about Ellerslie but separate the bogs from the bars and you remove the pinch points. Extend the toilets - not expensive - and we’re moving in the right direction. Could have been done years ago. See your point but LR is our only real asset. So for this to work for the money men it all hinges on this asset. I have said for a long time LR is a non starter and for me will go sooner or later. In a residential area the seating is tight the facilities are poor and whilst i love the place is not really fit for purpose. So Linford Christie is a possibility to what standard,budget who knows. LR becomes apartments high end which some will doubt but look at the scale of regeneration around the bush. The council will pickup more tax etc and prosper with a few brown envelopes,the yanks profit which is why they are on board and Reuben gets a kick back and his dosh. Worst scenario we end up with a ground in the wilderness which will test our supporters big time in respect of loyalty and continuing to support the club. |
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Post by The General on Mar 17, 2024 15:30:11 GMT
I personally think they will re develop Loftus Road
It will be alot cheaper prob 50 - 100 million
Rather than a new ground costing 200k - 300k
Out of the area which fans will hate
30k is unrealisted and impossible at Loftus
25k possibly would work
Council would also add help to this re generation of LR
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