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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 15, 2023 15:24:40 GMT
Mate it not working with current one, got to roll dice and give us a chance, because at mo we are going down. If going down meant getting shot of Hoos, Ferdinand, Critchley and the chance of the club being bought out by competent owners with fresh ideas and actual qualified football people running the club (a la Brentford blueprint) I wonder how many fans would take that?
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Feb 15, 2023 15:32:34 GMT
They go down, they struggle to come back. Football moved on massively since our last stint down there
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 15, 2023 16:26:50 GMT
Mate it not working with current one, got to roll dice and give us a chance, because at mo we are going down. If going down meant getting shot of Hoos, Ferdinand, Critchley and the chance of the club being bought out by competent owners with fresh ideas and actual qualified football people running the club (a la Brentford blueprint) I wonder how many fans would take that? No. Terrible league and hard to get out of.
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Post by MattyRangers on Feb 15, 2023 16:28:56 GMT
Mate it not working with current one, got to roll dice and give us a chance, because at mo we are going down. If going down meant getting shot of Hoos, Ferdinand, Critchley and the chance of the club being bought out by competent owners with fresh ideas and actual qualified football people running the club (a la Brentford blueprint) I wonder how many fans would take that? No way. Too big a risk, we could very very easily end up languishing at that level (Pompey....). Long term could be devastating.
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Post by 1973ranger on Feb 15, 2023 17:21:45 GMT
Mate it not working with current one, got to roll dice and give us a chance, because at mo we are going down. If going down meant getting shot of Hoos, Ferdinand, Critchley and the chance of the club being bought out by competent owners with fresh ideas and actual qualified football people running the club (a la Brentford blueprint) I wonder how many fans would take that? Right now would take anyone who can take us forward Stan, I think we are at rock bottom right now and a whole new era needs to happen
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Post by 2Loftus on Feb 15, 2023 18:56:38 GMT
Mate it not working with current one, got to roll dice and give us a chance, because at mo we are going down. If going down meant getting shot of Hoos, Ferdinand, Critchley and the chance of the club being bought out by competent owners with fresh ideas and actual qualified football people running the club (a la Brentford blueprint) I wonder how many fans would take that? And there's the problem... 'the chance of the club being bought out by competent owners...'QPR hasn't been owned by anyone remotely matching that description for decades. I think statistically, we're more likely to be bought by someone who is a vainglorious numpty who THINKS they know about football. The board must be getting frustrated by the lack of progress - surely(?) they will act to address problems in the hierarchy. Don't know where I read it, but there's a rumour suggesting that (allegedly) they will bankroll the club until the end of the season. Does that mean they won't after that? Recently their liabilities were reduced by the money from the sale of Eze. Next year they'll be back to losing £1m+ each month, just how long will they want to keep that up for? So, maybe the sale of the club is on the cards. Can't think it will be worth a huge amount in the grand scheme of things. Mike Ashley is still looking for a club (despite buying the Coventry City ground...).
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 21, 2023 15:51:36 GMT
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Feb 21, 2023 19:02:22 GMT
Maybe this decision was made over Les's head. Maybe this is an owners decision? Maybe they're sick of the algorithm approach? Look how Warnock was perceived by most QPR fans before he came to us. Exactly the same things were said about him as people are saying about Ainsworth now. Pragmatism trumps theory every time.
That’s a very good point and would tie in with what Tarbs suggested earlier. Basically the powers that be may be starting to remove the wool over their eyes and have made an executive decision over the DOF’s head. So absolutely no idea what is now the point of Les. Correction: I now have even less idea what the point of Les is. What does he and will he actually DO? We clearly aren't following the Brentford path, so is he being paid 500k a year to sit there playing with paper clips?
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Post by 1qprdk on Feb 22, 2023 15:42:22 GMT
That’s a very good point and would tie in with what Tarbs suggested earlier. Basically the powers that be may be starting to remove the wool over their eyes and have made an executive decision over the DOF’s head. So absolutely no idea what is now the point of Les. Correction: I now have even less idea what the point of Les is. What does he and will he actually DO? We clearly aren't following the Brentford path, so is he being paid 500k a year to sit there playing with paper clips? Yes, he rearranges the paperclips once in a while, when someone passes his office, and if he gets bored of playing candy crush. He even gets up sometimes to use the bathroom, not cause he needs it, but he goes there to suck in his cheeks and check his peaky blinders look in the mirror.
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Post by 1973ranger on Feb 25, 2023 17:39:06 GMT
I hope you are proud of ypur work Ferdinand of putting together such a bollockless group of players and dumping them on 2 managers. We will go down as no one can trust these shithouse players. When will these owners wake up and remove this cunt.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Feb 25, 2023 18:12:30 GMT
Not saying it not true,but it not all his fault.He working with a budget and it not very God one. So you are already at a disadvantage. Blame needs to go from top down to players. They all at fault.
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Post by sparks on Feb 26, 2023 14:17:19 GMT
An insight of the day to day responsibilities of Dan Ashworth ex England, West Brom, Brighton and now Newcastle DOF.I would ask why our owners don’t use their close contacts with ex QPR owner Jamie Reuben now at Newcastle thoughts on how things could be progressed at our club.
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 26, 2023 14:37:36 GMT
So JJ asked, rightly, what happens if it’s not working anymore? If I heard correctly then a change of philosophy comes from the chairman? Really? God help us then. Sorry, but a lot of this sounds like a modern non-job to me. An expensive way of doing the bleedin’ obvious and talking to each other.
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Post by 1973ranger on Feb 26, 2023 14:47:21 GMT
The only discussion to be had is when are you clearing your desk out
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Post by James1979 on Feb 26, 2023 17:30:37 GMT
Les should stick to being a pundit on sky
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Post by James1979 on Mar 4, 2023 21:43:50 GMT
Is he still here? Hoos and Les….get out of our club you parasites!
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Post by 1973ranger on Mar 5, 2023 2:28:50 GMT
Is he still here? Hoos and Les….get out of our club you parasites! Frightening to think that the owners believe that these two are doing a good job.
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Post by West Acton on Mar 5, 2023 7:30:24 GMT
I think there will be change come end of season. At the very least he needs be dragged in and asked explain different aspects of what his role has delivered and the outcomes and have his feet held against the fire.
Les has had long enough prove himself if he can’t do it time for someone else to have ago in the role with new ideas etc.
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Post by James1979 on Mar 5, 2023 8:10:07 GMT
I think there will be change come end of season. At the very least he needs be dragged in and asked explain different aspects of what his role has delivered and the outcomes and have his feet held against the fire. Les has had long enough prove himself if he can’t do it time for someone else to have ago in the role with new ideas etc. Why? I imagine he’s on a 3-6 month notice period. It’s also not easy to sack someone. Best to do that now. We do without one for a few months and get someone in for start of season. My biggest concern is that the owners are worried that sacking him will be unpopular with the fans. It should be the CEO making the decision. He won’t so they both should go.
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Post by Stanley75 on Mar 5, 2023 17:52:08 GMT
I think there will be change come end of season. At the very least he needs be dragged in and asked explain different aspects of what his role has delivered and the outcomes and have his feet held against the fire. Les has had long enough prove himself if he can’t do it time for someone else to have ago in the role with new ideas etc. Why? I imagine he’s on a 3-6 month notice period. It’s also not easy to sack someone. Best to do that now. We do without one for a few months and get someone in for start of season. My biggest concern is that the owners are worried that sacking him will be unpopular with the fans. It should be the CEO making the decision. He won’t so they both should go. I'd be very surprised if that was still the case. A year or two ago maybe, but not now.
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Post by Corbray on Mar 5, 2023 17:59:42 GMT
the board will have some interns regularly reading forums and twitter to get an idea of what the fans think about the running of the club.
but aside from that i can't believe that they'd be blind to les' handling of things. he's been here for 8 years and in that time we've been overtaken by all of our rivals.
i understand that we have a restricting budget but so does les and he's failed to work under those parameters in the time he's been here. the argument should always be if brentford can do it then why can't we? half the championship clubs can be added to that argument too ffs
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Post by James1979 on Mar 5, 2023 18:05:47 GMT
Are they still here?
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Post by West Acton on Mar 5, 2023 20:40:48 GMT
Why? I imagine he’s on a 3-6 month notice period. It’s also not easy to sack someone. Best to do that now. We do without one for a few months and get someone in for start of season. My biggest concern is that the owners are worried that sacking him will be unpopular with the fans. It should be the CEO making the decision. He won’t so they both should go. I'd be very surprised if that was still the case. A year or two ago maybe, but not now. agree If they can’t see the tide of opinion on Les has turned then they are deaf. But if he goes it should be because he’s not achieving based on whatever parameters that have set him not because fans want him out.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Mar 6, 2023 8:17:54 GMT
I'd be very surprised if that was still the case. A year or two ago maybe, but not now. agree If they can’t see the tide of opinion on Les has turned then they are deaf. But if he goes it should be because he’s not achieving based on whatever parameters that have set him not because fans want him out. But that's exactly why fans want him out. The man is a legend because of his playing days and no one will forget that, but he's failed miserably as DoF. It's time for a change. There's no way in hell he's achieved the goals set.
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Post by West Acton on Mar 6, 2023 9:22:57 GMT
agree If they can’t see the tide of opinion on Les has turned then they are deaf. But if he goes it should be because he’s not achieving based on whatever parameters that have set him not because fans want him out. But that's exactly why fans want him out. The man is a legend because of his playing days and no one will forget that, but he's failed miserably as DoF. It's time for a change. There's no way in hell he's achieved the goals set. Ginge I agree with you I think it’s time for him to exit left and let someone else have a crack at it but if we’re honest none of us actually know what the ask is of him from the owners. He could actually be knocking every ask out the ballpark (suspect he’s not but we don’t know). Going forwards would be good if owners were more transparent about expectations of roles etc so we can judge. I think Les should go but my reasons for that are results since October is that all down to him 🤷🏽♂️ but for me DOF should set and be responsible for entire ethos/culture across footballing side of the club. Until this season Think he’s done reasonably well probably because he had someone stable and reliable in Warburton below him which possibly covers up deficiencies in his skill set. Before that last time felt like wheels were coming off we had the loose cannon ball Holloway in charge.
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Post by James1979 on Mar 6, 2023 20:19:52 GMT
After our 3-1 loss to Rotherham as we head towards the bottom 3, Brentford play Fulham with both being in the top 10 in the Premier League. When Les and Hoos took over we were getting relegated to join them both in the Championship. 8 years on and look at us. Please just go. You are both destroying the club and the fan base.
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Post by 1973ranger on Mar 6, 2023 21:13:26 GMT
After our 3-1 loss to Rotherham as we head towards the bottom 3, Brentford play Fulham with both being in the top 10 in the Premier League. When Les and Hoos took over we were getting relegated to join them both in the Championship. 8 years on and look at us. Please just go. You are both destroying the club and the fan base. Disgraceful how we have been allowed to sink so low under these pair.
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Post by James1979 on Mar 8, 2023 19:14:58 GMT
Still here Les and Hoos? Please close door on way out.
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Post by alanwycombe on Mar 10, 2023 9:19:48 GMT
You could put Ancilloti in charge of this squad and it wouldn’t make a lot of difference. Changes have to be made above. It’s not just players, every team we play looks fitter, quicker and finishes games stronger than we do. It’s so obvious.
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Post by James1979 on Mar 10, 2023 10:30:07 GMT
Are they still here? Unbelievable
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