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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2021 22:12:11 GMT
Ryan Porteous C/B at Hibs..They were on tv a few weeks ago and Dillon Barnes was on loan there so decided to see what Keeper was like.
Barnes looked average but was really impressed with Porteous...Saw Millwall had £2m bid turned down yesterday.
Maybe it was Liam Kelly not Barnes
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Post by rscot on Feb 2, 2021 22:14:52 GMT
Who should you be looking at in Scotland?
Being truthful, me, I’ve got one of the best football brains on these islands. I know some things about football others don’t.
I can make players better, any of the players in your squad
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Post by rscot on Feb 2, 2021 22:22:12 GMT
As far as players go, I look at things a bit differently, I see players as how I could improve them, make them better.
My favourite manager is Bill Shankly, now Shankly made lots of quotes that are quite well known. And if you listen to him, he’ll tell you what you are looking for in a player, the most important attribute
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Post by rscot on Feb 2, 2021 22:25:15 GMT
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Post by rscot on Feb 2, 2021 22:30:12 GMT
I think Scottish football would be a great idea! But cant see it working though. I think it’s probably too cerebral for us Scots |
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Post by rscot on Feb 2, 2021 23:10:38 GMT
Ok folks, we know that sometimes our cousins down South can be a little slow, so I’ll try to make it simple. What did Shankly say were the most important attributes in the above video? You folks do like games, don’t you? |
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 2, 2021 23:39:31 GMT
"Natural enthusiasm"
Love Bill Shankly. What an inspirational leader of men he was.
Wests, you've really gone and set Rscot off on this thread 😅
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Post by rscot on Feb 2, 2021 23:41:41 GMT
"Natural enthusiasm" Love Bill Shankly. What an inspirational leader of men he was. And ? he mentions something else Stan |
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 2, 2021 23:44:06 GMT
Hard on players that need it; and the opposite for those that don't need it.
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Post by rscot on Feb 2, 2021 23:46:31 GMT
Honesty, honesty, Stan you’ve got to be honest with yourself and each other. These are Shanklys thoughts, different managers will have different ideas. I’m drawn to Shankly because I see from a similar perspective
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 2, 2021 23:47:31 GMT
The English had Cloughie. The Scots had Shankly. Both cut from similar cloth.
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 2, 2021 23:48:39 GMT
honesty, Stan you’ve got to be honest with yourself and each other. Yes, that too! LOL. |
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Post by rscot on Feb 2, 2021 23:49:37 GMT
The English had Cloughie. The Scots had Shankly. Both cut from similar cloth. I’m a great admirer of Clough. Now look at what happened when he took over at Leeds. What did he do when he became manager, straight away? |
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 2, 2021 23:51:37 GMT
The English had Cloughie. The Scots had Shankly. Both cut from similar cloth. I’m a great admirer of Clough. Now look at what happened when he took over at Leeds. What did he do when he became manager, straight away? Yes, and got sacked after 44 days 😂 |
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Post by rscot on Feb 2, 2021 23:52:28 GMT
Why though Stan, what did he do?
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 2, 2021 23:55:15 GMT
Why though Stan, what did he do? I saw a fascinating documentary on the whole story. Basically the hierarchy really didn't take to him. He took them on and challenged the big star players. Player power in the end got him the sack. Just a very bad fit |
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Post by rscot on Feb 2, 2021 23:56:31 GMT
He told them what he thought of them, he was being honest with them. Would you agree Stan?
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 2, 2021 23:58:48 GMT
He told them what he thought of them, he was being honest with them. Would you agree Stan? Absolutely RS. He told them some home truths. All those big star names had become too comfortable and he tried to shake things up, but it totally backfired |
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Post by rscot on Feb 2, 2021 23:59:46 GMT
Why? Why did he do that? Why was he honest with them
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 3, 2021 0:01:38 GMT
Why? Why did he do that? Why was he honest with them Because they needed it. They'd become too complacent as they knew their places weren't under any threat. |
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Post by rscot on Feb 3, 2021 0:03:47 GMT
Because Clough and Shankly believed that honest relationships are the strongest, most productive relationships, perhaps?
People who are honest with themselves and honest with each other.
And they would try to make you honest if they thought you were a fraud, they’d try to make you see your true self by destroying your ego, fake personality. They’d do this for your good and the good of the team. They want you to be the best possible you by being honest with yourself. Would you agree, Stan?
They wanted you to overcome your own shortcomings to grow as a person and as a player, reminiscent of Nietzsche and the Ubermensch. Would you agree Stan?
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Feb 3, 2021 7:58:52 GMT
Christ way tv and all media going since last night ,surprised capt,air Marshall, president,king ,God,Tom just missed out on replacing Ollie at man u,or Neil a the pacers
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Post by West Acton on Feb 3, 2021 9:22:25 GMT
yes mate sorry was not aware |
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 3, 2021 10:04:28 GMT
I’m a great admirer of Clough. Now look at what happened when he took over at Leeds. What did he do when he became manager, straight away? Yes, and got sacked after 44 days 😂That marriage was NEVER going to work. Clough hated 'the dirty Leeds' just like everyone else outside Leeds did in those days. Revie was a cheat and his players were exactly that, his. They hated Clough and were never going to play for him. Complete debacle from the outset. |
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Post by awin on Feb 3, 2021 10:31:47 GMT
One name. David Martindale, Livingston boss with a premiership record of P 14 W 11 D 3 L 0.
Also has a great backstory.
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Post by Corbray on Feb 3, 2021 12:23:28 GMT
One name. David Martindale, Livingston boss with a premiership record of P 14 W 11 D 3 L 0. Also has a great backstory. absolutely mental record for a club like livingston, especially after a couple of their better players left in the summer. rscot can you provide any insight as to how livingston and martindale are doing extraordinarily well? |
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Post by awin on Feb 3, 2021 12:58:51 GMT
One name. David Martindale, Livingston boss with a premiership record of P 14 W 11 D 3 L 0. Also has a great backstory. absolutely mental record for a club like livingston, especially after a couple of their better players left in the summer. rscot can you provide any insight as to how livingston and martindale are doing extraordinarily well? Corbs you do know the mental back story to him? |
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Post by Corbray on Feb 3, 2021 14:01:49 GMT
absolutely mental record for a club like livingston, especially after a couple of their better players left in the summer. rscot can you provide any insight as to how livingston and martindale are doing extraordinarily well? Corbs you do know the mental back story to him? yes mate, not in detail though. just that he was in prison for 6 years as a coke dealer and rose up through livingston from groundsman to manager. awesome story! |
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Post by rscot on Feb 3, 2021 14:57:33 GMT
One name. David Martindale, Livingston boss with a premiership record of P 14 W 11 D 3 L 0. Also has a great backstory. absolutely mental record for a club like livingston, especially after a couple of their better players left in the summer. rscot can you provide any insight as to how livingston and martindale are doing extraordinarily well? I think the simple answer is Team Spirit, although I’m not involved at the club, so that’s my opinion from the outside looking in, they’ve had a little luck at times too. But Team Spirit, working hard for each other, which had lead to a couple of wins, which builds confidence and the momentum grows from there. Similar to where QPR are at just now. I can see QPR going on a good run. They’ve been on a decent run, Derby being the exception but there were reasons for that, namely the injury to Carroll and having no direct replacement. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Feb 3, 2021 15:21:22 GMT
6years😊 he selling more than a gram here and there.
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