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Post by rscot on Feb 4, 2021 18:30:36 GMT
The English had Cloughie. The Scots had Shankly. Both cut from similar cloth. Anyway Stan, back to Shankly. Bill Shankly was born in the Ayrshire village of Glenbuck (a village that at its biggest had a population of 1200) which produced over 50 professional football players from it team the Glenbuck Cherrypickers, 6 of whom played for Scotland. In a 30-year span, Glenbuck men graced the pitches of Celtic, Rangers, Motherwell, Partick Thistle, Dundee, Kilmarnock, Hamilton Academical, Heart of Midlothian, Ayr and Stranraer. Others went south to Tottenham Hotspur, Everton, Arsenal, Newcastle United, Blackburn Rovers, Preston North End, Liverpool, Sheffield Wednesday, Aston Villa, Portsmouth and Manchester City. The first to turn professional was Alex Tait. He won an English FA Cup winner's medal with Spurs against Sheffield United in the 1901 final at Burnden Park, watched by a crowd of almost 115,000. In gratitude, Spurs allowed the Cup to cross the border and be displayed in a Glenbuck shop window. Glenbuck is now gone, there are no homes there now
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Post by rscot on Feb 4, 2021 18:38:02 GMT
Auld Ayr, wham ne’er a town surpasses, For honest men and bonny lasses, Robert Burns, Tam O’Shanter written in 1790
Ayr Utd Fc are known as “The Honest Men”
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Post by rscot on Feb 4, 2021 18:46:09 GMT
Bill Shankly wasn’t the only manger from his family. Bob Shankly (brother of Bill Shankly) was appointed manager in 1959. Dundee won the league title of Scotland's top division, then called the Division One, in the 1961–62 season. With players such as Bobby Cox, Bobby Wishart, Pat Liney (Goalkeeper), Alan Cousin, Andy Penman, Hugh Robertson, Alan Gilzean, Alex Hamilton, Bobby Seith, Gordon Smith and Ian Ure they clinched the title with a win against St Johnstone, which in turn relegated St Johnstone to the then Second Division. Gordon Smith earned the distinction of being the only player to win the Scottish football championship with three clubs (Hibs, Hearts and Dundee), none of them either half of the traditionally dominant Old Firm.[3]
The following season, 1962–63, Dundee reached the semi-finals of the European Cup beating 1. FC Köln, Sporting Clube de Portugal and R.S.C. Anderlecht. Dundee lost to A.C. Milan on aggregate in the semi-finals; though Dundee won (and kept a clean sheet) against Milan in the home leg at Dens Park.
The Dee reached the Scottish Cup final again in the 1963–64 competition. Shankly left Dundee in February 1965.[3]
The next manager after Shankly was former player Bobby Ancell from the 1947 B Division Championship side. Ancell took Dundee to a 1967–68 League Cup final against the previous season's European Cup winners, Celtic. Ancell's team scored three times at Hampden Park in Celtic's native Glasgow but still lost 5–3.
In the predecessor to the UEFA Cup/Europa League, Dundee reached the semi-finals of the 1967–68 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup. Dundee eliminated opposition from the Netherlands, Belgium and Switzerland to meet Leeds United in the semi-final. After a 1–1 draw at Dens, a 1–0 second leg win took Leeds through
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Post by rscot on Feb 4, 2021 18:53:40 GMT
By the way, just to show you how popular football was in Scotland in the past 136,495 fans attended the 1952 Scottish Cup Final between Dundee and Motherwell. This is also a record for a club match in Scotland not featuring either of the Old Firm
. The highest ever attendance for a UEFA competition match was in the 1969–70 European Cup semi-final at Hampden Park, Scotland's national stadium. A record 136,505 people attended the match between Celtic and Leeds United. The attendance of 149,415 for the Scotland vs. England international match of 1937 at Hampden Park is also a European record. The attendance of 147,365 for the 1937 Scottish Cup Final between Celtic and Aberdeen at Hampden Park is a European record for a club match. Rangers' record attendance of 118,567 at Ibrox is a British record for a league match.
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Post by rscot on Feb 4, 2021 19:02:46 GMT
Scottish sides have won four UEFA competitions between them, with Celtic becoming the first side from the British Isles to be European champions by winning the 1966–67 European Cup. Rangers (in 1972) and Aberdeen (in 1983) both won the Cup Winners' Cup before its abolition, with Aberdeen going on to become the only Scottish side to win the UEFA Super Cup in the same year as their Cup Winners' Cup triumph.
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Post by 1qprdk on Feb 4, 2021 20:06:10 GMT
Bill Shankly wasn’t the only manger from his family. Bob Shankly (brother of Bill Shankly) was appointed manager in 1959. Dundee won the league title of Scotland's top division, then called the Division One, in the 1961–62 season. With players such as Bobby Cox, Bobby Wishart, Pat Liney (Goalkeeper), Alan Cousin, Andy Penman, Hugh Robertson, Alan Gilzean, Alex Hamilton, Bobby Seith, Gordon Smith and Ian Ure they clinched the title with a win against St Johnstone, which in turn relegated St Johnstone to the then Second Division. Gordon Smith earned the distinction of being the only player to win the Scottish football championship with three clubs (Hibs, Hearts and Dundee), none of them either half of the traditionally dominant Old Firm.[3] The following season, 1962–63, Dundee reached the semi-finals of the European Cup beating 1. FC Köln, Sporting Clube de Portugal and R.S.C. Anderlecht. Dundee lost to A.C. Milan on aggregate in the semi-finals; though Dundee won (and kept a clean sheet) against Milan in the home leg at Dens Park. The Dee reached the Scottish Cup final again in the 1963–64 competition. Shankly left Dundee in February 1965.[3] The next manager after Shankly was former player Bobby Ancell from the 1947 B Division Championship side. Ancell took Dundee to a 1967–68 League Cup final against the previous season's European Cup winners, Celtic. Ancell's team scored three times at Hampden Park in Celtic's native Glasgow but still lost 5–3. In the predecessor to the UEFA Cup/Europa League, Dundee reached the semi-finals of the 1967–68 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup. Dundee eliminated opposition from the Netherlands, Belgium and Switzerland to meet Leeds United in the semi-final. After a 1–1 draw at Dens, a 1–0 second leg win took Leeds through That's all well and good scotty, but aint they a bit old to be targets in this day and age?
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Post by rscot on Feb 4, 2021 20:09:52 GMT
You’ve all been bemoaning the lack of experience in the squad
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Post by Shania on Feb 4, 2021 20:16:59 GMT
Bill Shankly wasn’t the only manger from his family. Bob Shankly (brother of Bill Shankly) was appointed manager in 1959. Dundee won the league title of Scotland's top division, then called the Division One, in the 1961–62 season. With players such as Bobby Cox, Bobby Wishart, Pat Liney (Goalkeeper), Alan Cousin, Andy Penman, Hugh Robertson, Alan Gilzean, Alex Hamilton, Bobby Seith, Gordon Smith and Ian Ure they clinched the title with a win against St Johnstone, which in turn relegated St Johnstone to the then Second Division. Gordon Smith earned the distinction of being the only player to win the Scottish football championship with three clubs (Hibs, Hearts and Dundee), none of them either half of the traditionally dominant Old Firm.[3] The following season, 1962–63, Dundee reached the semi-finals of the European Cup beating 1. FC Köln, Sporting Clube de Portugal and R.S.C. Anderlecht. Dundee lost to A.C. Milan on aggregate in the semi-finals; though Dundee won (and kept a clean sheet) against Milan in the home leg at Dens Park. The Dee reached the Scottish Cup final again in the 1963–64 competition. Shankly left Dundee in February 1965.[3] The next manager after Shankly was former player Bobby Ancell from the 1947 B Division Championship side. Ancell took Dundee to a 1967–68 League Cup final against the previous season's European Cup winners, Celtic. Ancell's team scored three times at Hampden Park in Celtic's native Glasgow but still lost 5–3. In the predecessor to the UEFA Cup/Europa League, Dundee reached the semi-finals of the 1967–68 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup. Dundee eliminated opposition from the Netherlands, Belgium and Switzerland to meet Leeds United in the semi-final. After a 1–1 draw at Dens, a 1–0 second leg win took Leeds through That's all well and good scotty, but aint they a bit old to be targets in this day and age? Haha But to be honest would you say no to Alan Gilzean, if he turned up? Some will say that`s a scary thought perhaps. Lol.
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Post by rscot on Feb 4, 2021 20:22:08 GMT
Bill Shankly quotes
“Football is a simple game based on the giving and taking of passes, of controlling the ball and of making yourself available to receive a pass. It is terribly simple.”
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“Some people believe football is a matter of life and death, I am very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that.”
I think a lot of people don’t really understand this quote, the way that Shankly meant it to be understood
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Post by rscot on Feb 4, 2021 21:47:48 GMT
Speaking of Davie Martindale, a statue in his honour has been unveiled outside the clubs stadium Attachments:
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Feb 11, 2021 19:08:14 GMT
No wonder Scots football fails, as all the coaches more interested in scoring with the youth squads.
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Post by Corbray on Feb 19, 2021 19:24:02 GMT
are there any decent LB's up there that you could see us targetting in the summer rscot i've always liked the look of greg taylor, would he be a realistic target?
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Post by Tarbie on Feb 19, 2021 19:36:35 GMT
are there any decent LB's up there that you could see us targetting in the summer rscot i've always liked the look of greg taylor, would he be a realistic target? Rangers have got a young lad called Calvin Bassey who looks quite handy. Little way down the pecking order at Rangers. Came through the Leicester youth system.
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Post by West Acton on Feb 19, 2021 20:10:10 GMT
Heard of Bassy he’s supposed be pretty good
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Post by Tarbie on Feb 19, 2021 22:20:23 GMT
Heard of Bassy he’s supposed be pretty good He's not started many, that Barasic had the left back pretty well nailed on. Also rumours that Gerrard is very unhappy with the 5 players who broke Covid protocol last week (Bassey being 1 of them). I suspect Rangers may let him leave in the summer.
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Post by West Acton on Mar 8, 2021 21:05:31 GMT
Mcinnes sacked
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Post by rscot on Apr 17, 2021 16:56:14 GMT
I think Declan Gallagher would be a good signing for QPR, he’d fit in nicely in the middle of the back 3 (or on the right of the back 3). His contract is up at Motherwell in the summer, wouldn’t cost anything, just his wages. He’d add height, pace, physicality, aggression to the back 3.
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Post by rscot on Apr 17, 2021 17:08:51 GMT
There’s a right wing back at St Johnstone who has apparently being playing really well this season. I’m not a St Johnstone fan so I’ve not seen a great deal of him. When I have seen him he’s looked good. His name is Shaun Rooney, I think he’s worth a look for QPR, he’s 6ft 3, strong, aggressive, decent footballer, good pace. I’d imagine he’d cost £300-400,000 maximum.
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Post by rscot on Apr 26, 2021 19:09:33 GMT
Shaun Rooney at St Johnstone could be the solution to your problem at right wing back. If any of you guys get the chance to watch a St Johnstone game before the season ends, have a look. He’d cost maybe £300,000 - £400,000 maximum, he’s 24 y/o. He’s not the finished article, but I think he’s worth the gamble at that price, his age and his potential. He has the physicality to handle the Championship and to cause opposition problems. I’d think QPR could improve his footballing side. Personally I’d like to see him in the Scotland squad.
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Post by Corbray on Apr 26, 2021 20:14:28 GMT
he's likely the kind of player we'll go for especially as we do arguebly need a new RWB. only issue is lots of clubs will be looking north of the border now that brexit has gone through
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Post by rscot on Apr 26, 2021 20:22:18 GMT
he's likely the kind of player we'll go for especially as we do arguebly need a new RWB. only issue is lots of clubs will be looking north of the border now that brexit has gone through If QPR can improve his technique and footballing side, he has the potential to be a nightmare to play against. He’s something different from the wing backs that QPR have, his physicality, power will cause most opposition defences problems, he’s 6ft 3, strong, aggressive, good pace, good work rate. He’ll literally over run opposition full backs, wing backs. I can imagine him and Dickie would work well together on the right. He may take time to adapt, acclimatise to the Championship, but I think he can do it. And once he does, you’ll have a formidable player in both offensive and defence. He’s 24 and I think it’s about the right time for him to step up a level, he’d also be relatively cheap.
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Post by hal9thou on Apr 26, 2021 23:35:29 GMT
I think we maybe need to make up our minds whether LWB or RWB is the issue here, because one thing is nailed on, there wont be a budget for both sides.
Shankly. Now you're talking. People forget that Liverpool were lower down the league than we are now when he took up the reins. For me the greatest Scots gaffer, above Jock and Fergie.
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Post by rscot on May 7, 2021 19:39:36 GMT
Declan Gallagher signed a 2 year deal with Aberdeen. Bit of a sideways move in my opinion, I’d have liked to have seen him move to a club like QPR, make a step up and challenge himself. Apparently a few clubs are interested in Ryan Gauld, supposedly Norwich?
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Post by West Acton on May 8, 2021 6:39:59 GMT
Was happy he went Aberdeen myself. Glass seems to have a plan
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Post by rscot on May 8, 2021 8:24:26 GMT
Was happy he went Aberdeen myself. Glass seems to have a plan I think Gallagher would’ve been a good fit for QPR, especially now Cameron is gone. I’d imagine MW will have a few CB in mind to add competition and depth to that area of the team/squad. We will just need to wait and see who he goes for in the summer.
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St Johnstone are playing St Mirren in the Scottish Cup semi-final now. If any of you are looking for a game to watch, you can catch the 2nd half. Have a look at Shaun Rooney, St Johnstone right wing-back. Do you think he could do a job for QPR?
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Post by rscot on May 22, 2021 12:32:57 GMT
Scottish Cup final on at 2pm, Hibs vs St Johnstone. Maybe of interest as a couple of players, if rumours are to be believed, are catching the eye of some teams in England. Doig (left-back), Porteous (centre-half), Nisbet (striker) for Hibs, perhaps Boyle (attacking midfield) too. Rooney (right wing/back) for St Johnstone is also playing.
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