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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 6, 2023 12:39:12 GMT
Interesting and worth watching full video on you tube |
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Post by Hitman34 on Jan 6, 2023 13:01:59 GMT
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Post by Hitman34 on Jan 6, 2023 13:03:43 GMT
Interesting and worth watching full video on you tube Amazing how this interview has surfaced on the very day we let go of a 1.5m striker on a free. Seems like someone has been thrown under a bus. |
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Post by sparks on Jan 10, 2023 12:58:25 GMT
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Post by acricketer on Jan 10, 2023 13:03:40 GMT
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Post by sparks on Jan 10, 2023 13:20:44 GMT
Does the computer know the song daisy? |
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Post by spongeparr on Jan 10, 2023 15:01:07 GMT
About time we followed this model. Smaller teams have been working wonders with it; Brighton and Brentford to name a couple.
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Post by spongeparr on Jan 10, 2023 15:02:07 GMT
Saying that, hopefully they have supplied info on a striker as a proof of product, so we get one in this window and we don't have to wait until next season to see if it's any good.
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Post by Hitman34 on Jan 10, 2023 15:39:10 GMT
About time we followed this model. Smaller teams have been working wonders with it; Brighton and Brentford to name a couple. Can we make it the DOF |
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Post by hubble on Jan 10, 2023 15:54:22 GMT
Sounds great on paper, but does it come with the law of diminishing returns factored in? What I mean is that the more clubs that use it, the less effective it becomes, until ultimately there's no advantage at all. |
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Post by sparks on Jan 10, 2023 16:07:45 GMT
Sounds great on paper, but does it come with the law of diminishing returns factored in? What I mean is that the more clubs that use it, the less effective it becomes, until ultimately there's no advantage at all. That’s a very good point Hubble, looking at the additional links in that article it looks like there are perhaps half a dozen clubs tied in with the company already. A month or so ago we also signed a similar deal with another company specialising in data from non league clubs. |
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Post by hal9thou on Jan 10, 2023 16:33:31 GMT
It's a databank. End of story really. I imagined we'd been using something like this for years, just with spectacularly poor results.......
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Andy Belk
Jan 10, 2023 16:44:10 GMT
via mobile
Post by Hitman34 on Jan 10, 2023 16:44:10 GMT
It's a databank. End of story really. I imagined we'd been using something like this for years, just with spectacularly poor results....... Why do we need to waste money on this if we have not a pot to piss in??? We could have done with this when we sold freeman, smithes, and bright on the cheap. DOF probably brought this data thing in because he has not got a clue how much payers are worth. Bonne 2mil, dykes 2mil, Washington 2.5 mil. Luongo, boyorask, gladwin, el Kant, and so much more fucking wasted money. Think it’s a bit late to bring in Hal9000 to value our players. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 10, 2023 16:50:18 GMT
Do our players have value? Im gobsmacked
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Post by sparks on Jan 10, 2023 16:53:26 GMT
It's a databank. End of story really. I imagined we'd been using something like this for years, just with spectacularly poor results....... Why do we need to waste money on this if we have not a pot to piss in??? We could have done with this when we sold freeman, smithes, and bright on the cheap. DOF probably brought this data thing in because he has not got a clue how much payers are worth. Bonne 2mil, dykes 2mil, Washington 2.5 mil. Luongo, boyorask, gladwin, el Kant, and so much more fucking wasted money. Think it’s a bit late to bring in Hal9000 to value our players. Saw an article yesterday describing PNE are again interested in Bonne now he’s a freebie, the article also described before he joined us they also put an offer of £750k for him and ran away when we went balls deep with our our offer. |
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Post by Tarbie on Jan 10, 2023 17:00:39 GMT
It's a databank. End of story really. I imagined we'd been using something like this for years, just with spectacularly poor results....... Why do we need to waste money on this if we have not a pot to piss in??? We could have done with this when we sold freeman, smithes, and bright on the cheap. DOF probably brought this data thing in because he has not got a clue how much payers are worth. Bonne 2mil, dykes 2mil, Washington 2.5 mil. Luongo, boyorask, gladwin, el Kant, and so much more fucking wasted money. Think it’s a bit late to bring in Hal9000 to value our players. It definitely isn't a waste of money mate. All corporations of the size and scope of QPR should be harnessing technology to make data driven decisions. The real question is were we not using any kind of analytics tool with regards to player acquisition before, and if not, why not? |
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Post by hal9thou on Jan 10, 2023 17:15:42 GMT
Why do we need to waste money on this if we have not a pot to piss in??? We could have done with this when we sold freeman, smithes, and bright on the cheap. DOF probably brought this data thing in because he has not got a clue how much payers are worth. Bonne 2mil, dykes 2mil, Washington 2.5 mil. Luongo, boyorask, gladwin, el Kant, and so much more fucking wasted money. Think it’s a bit late to bring in Hal9000 to value our players. It definitely isn't a waste of money mate. All corporations of the size and scope of QPR should be harnessing technology to make data driven decisions. The real question is were we not using any kind of analytics tool with regards to player acquisition before, and if not, why not? The recent interview with Belk revealed that we were doing it in house..... it sounded kind of amateur. |
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Post by Tarbie on Jan 10, 2023 17:26:32 GMT
In house would probably work too. All you'd need is the appropriate data source and a Visualization tool like Qlik, Tableau or PowerBI. That would also involve having capable technology professionals at the club though, which I don't know that we do.
Outsourcing the whole process to specialists probably makes more sense.
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Post by sparks on Jan 30, 2023 10:32:59 GMT
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Post by Stanley75 on Mar 14, 2023 23:32:50 GMT
Clive Allen scored thirty two goals in a season aged 18. he was clearly ready Yes but would QPR even develop and bring through a kid like him today? Clearly our recruitment and scouting was in a different league in those days in comparison to The Andy Belk Show. Better run club overall too under Gregory. So it's like comparing apples and oranges, isn't it? |
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Post by 1973ranger on Mar 15, 2023 3:17:51 GMT
Yes but would QPR even develop and bring through a kid like him today? Clearly our recruitment and scouting was in a different league in those days in comparison to The Andy Belk Show. Better run club overall too under Gregory. So it's like comparing apples and oranges, isn't it? Ww scout weak minded crocks very well but not young promising players. The recruitment has been shit since 2010 when Warnock brought in Adel, Paddy, Mackie, Derry, Hill and Kyle Walker on loan. Cannot remember a transfer window since that has been fruitful on the field of play. |
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Andy Belk
Mar 15, 2023 7:16:55 GMT
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Post by James1979 on Mar 15, 2023 7:16:55 GMT
We have scouts? Don’t be daft.
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Post by alanwycombe on Mar 15, 2023 7:24:55 GMT
Yes but would QPR even develop and bring through a kid like him today? Clearly our recruitment and scouting was in a different league in those days in comparison to The Andy Belk Show. Better run club overall too under Gregory. So it's like comparing apples and oranges, isn't it? Ww scout weak minded crocks very well but not young promising players. The recruitment has been shit since 2010 when Warnock brought in Adel, Paddy, Mackie, Derry, Hill and Kyle Walker on loan. Cannot remember a transfer window since that has been fruitful on the field of play. Key words - ‘Warnock brought in’ |
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Andy Belk
Mar 15, 2023 7:44:13 GMT
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Post by Corbray on Mar 15, 2023 7:44:13 GMT
We have scouts? Don’t be daft. we'd be better off using football manager for scouting players lol |
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Post by alanwycombe on Mar 15, 2023 7:51:37 GMT
Yes but would QPR even develop and bring through a kid like him today? Clearly our recruitment and scouting was in a different league in those days in comparison to The Andy Belk Show. Better run club overall too under Gregory. So it's like comparing apples and oranges, isn't it? Ww scout weak minded crocks very well but not young promising players. The recruitment has been shit since 2010 when Warnock brought in Adel, Paddy, Mackie, Derry, Hill and Kyle Walker on loan. Cannot remember a transfer window since that has been fruitful on the field of play. When you see those players listed you see immediately what he was doing. Every team needs a reliable keeper, a couple of experienced Dogs of War in key areas, a flawed genius you can cope with, a Duracell bunny and a promising youngster with something to prove. The difference between a manager putting together a winning team and a DOF creating an identity for the club. |
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Post by Stanley75 on May 23, 2023 12:51:29 GMT
Like I said previously, when you look at non playing staff alone it gets worse.... we're way more profligate than cov luton wall. We are hopeless at everything we do. When we spend, we get the wrong ones in. Meanwhile we piss up the rest up the wall on excess playing staff, a large chunk of which goes to proven failures ( Belk, DoF etc etc). Who's been at the club for 15 years now: Head of Performance Analysis Aug 2008 - Dec 2015 · 7 yrs 5 mos Recruitment Analyst & Scouting Coordinator Dec 2015 - Dec 2019 · 4 yrs 1 mos Head Of Recruitment Jan 2020 - Present · 3 yrs 5 mos Where is the proof in that pudding? |
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Post by James1979 on May 23, 2023 15:19:22 GMT
Like I said previously, when you look at non playing staff alone it gets worse.... we're way more profligate than cov luton wall. We are hopeless at everything we do. When we spend, we get the wrong ones in. Meanwhile we piss up the rest up the wall on excess playing staff, a large chunk of which goes to proven failures ( Belk, DoF etc etc). Whose been at the club for 15 years now: Head of Performance Analysis Aug 2008 - Dec 2015 · 7 yrs 5 mos Recruitment Analyst & Scouting Coordinator Dec 2015 - Dec 2019 · 4 yrs 1 mos Head Of Recruitment Jan 2020 - Present · 3 yrs 5 mos If you’re at QPR and you had those job titles, surely you would resign out of embarrassment. |
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Post by acricketer on May 23, 2023 15:25:15 GMT
Head of Dire Results
Dross Finder & Barrel Scraper
Head of Poo-curement
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Post by stainrodisalegend on May 24, 2023 8:03:37 GMT
Like I said previously, when you look at non playing staff alone it gets worse.... we're way more profligate than cov luton wall. We are hopeless at everything we do. When we spend, we get the wrong ones in. Meanwhile we piss up the rest up the wall on excess playing staff, a large chunk of which goes to proven failures ( Belk, DoF etc etc). Who's been at the club for 15 years now: Head of Performance Analysis Aug 2008 - Dec 2015 · 7 yrs 5 mos Recruitment Analyst & Scouting Coordinator Dec 2015 - Dec 2019 · 4 yrs 1 mos Head Of Recruitment Jan 2020 - Present · 3 yrs 5 mos Where is the proof in that pudding? All smacks of being too comfortable, doesn’t it? I get after the Briatore years and relegation they wanted stability and a new structure based on developing players. But with a few exceptions they have clearly failed. Yet is anyone at board level thinking about this stuff? For instance I have suggested on here finding out who the Brentford number 2 is at recruitment/ analytics and hire him. That’s just one probably crap idea but I don’t work in the industry. After a decade in the game the board should have enough contacts to ask someone sensible who they should recruit. Maybe swallow their pride and ask Mick Fucking Beale - he owes us that much. But I bet Amit is on his huge yacht - saw it by chance last summer round the Greek islands - having a high old time, no sense to me at least that the board has flown in to London for crisis talks last game of the season and instituted a full review top to bottom. We just seem to be sleepwalking into next season - and what a shit show that threatens tb. |
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Post by sparks on May 24, 2023 8:35:58 GMT
Amit was quick to congratulate Jamie Reuben at Newcastle yesterday on Twitter yet appears to be burying his head where this club is concerned.
The thing that worries me is how much interference have Amit and co had over Belks, Ferdinand and Hoos roles, who would want to risk coming here to work under similar conditions.
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