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Post by esoxlucius on Oct 13, 2019 12:09:03 GMT
On a side note it would be nice to see Wallace actually play!! Really? Would you feel the same way about dropping either Eze or Chair just to see what Bansal-McNulty could do in the first team? Dropping Manning at the moment would almost guarantee that he would decide to leave if given a chance; he is improving week on week at he moment and deserves his place in the first team. |
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Post by shepherdsmush on Oct 13, 2019 13:27:44 GMT
Other than money, why would you go to Newcastle in January just to end up in the Championship the following season ?
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Post by acricketer on Oct 13, 2019 13:36:21 GMT
Other than money, why would you go to Newcastle in January just to end up in the Championship the following season ? Good point. He should choose Man U instead! |
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Post by Tarbie on Oct 13, 2019 14:41:46 GMT
Other than money, why would you go to Newcastle in January just to end up in the Championship the following season ? Money may be a big factor though. Manning's last contract renewal was 2 years ago when he had about 20 first team games under his belt. Probably on peanuts, so wouldn't surprise me if he'd want the opportunity to talk to sides showing an interest. At the same time, as I said above. I always take these rumours on obscure websites and the red tops with a pinch of salt. It's a very easy thing for an agent to chuck a bullshit story at a poor journalist in an attempt to push a players bargaining power up when it comes near time to renew a contract. Pawel's agent did it pretty successfully with that nonsense Chelsea rumour. And look what happened there. Pocketed more money than he was worth for 2 years, then inevitably ended up without a club cos we couldn't afford to renew him and nobody else would offer him another deal anything like what he's been earning! |
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Oct 13, 2019 18:22:42 GMT
On a side note it would be nice to see Wallace actually play!! Really? Would you feel the same way about dropping either Eze or Chair just to see what Bansal-McNulty could do in the first team? Dropping Manning at the moment would almost guarantee that he would decide to leave if given a chance; he is improving week on week at he moment and deserves his place in the first team. I'm interested to see what he's like. I wasn't specifying who to drop mate. |
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Post by Corbray on Oct 13, 2019 18:25:56 GMT
On a side note it would be nice to see Wallace actually play!! Really? Would you feel the same way about dropping either Eze or Chair just to see what Bansal-McNulty could do in the first team? Dropping Manning at the moment would almost guarantee that he would decide to leave if given a chance; he is improving week on week at he moment and deserves his place in the first team. you keep up to date with the u23s don't you? i think its you anyway! is there any promising players who've stepped it up this season. i've seen charlie kendall's name touted about as one of our most promising youngsters |
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Post by esoxlucius on Oct 14, 2019 6:59:19 GMT
Really? Would you feel the same way about dropping either Eze or Chair just to see what Bansal-McNulty could do in the first team? Dropping Manning at the moment would almost guarantee that he would decide to leave if given a chance; he is improving week on week at he moment and deserves his place in the first team. you keep up to date with the u23s don't you? i think its you anyway! is there any promising players who've stepped it up this season. i've seen charlie kendall's name touted about as one of our most promising youngsters Kendall was injured early in the season but has now recovered but not getting in the side. Jake Frailing is worth keeping an eye out for, Deshane Dalling always impresses me when he plays, Nathan Carlyle looks good and scored against Charlton last week. Ody Alfa who just went out on loan, Joe Gubbins. We can only hope that Eze's young brother is as good too. *Edit. I just saw that Themis Kefalaos, who has just gone out on loan, came on as a sub for Billericay Town on Saturday and Ody Alfa scored their goal with a pacy individual effort. |
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Post by The General on Oct 17, 2019 10:20:34 GMT
West ham now chasing Ryan Manning apparantly
Why not just swap him for Hugill both worth around 5 million pounds each
No Brainer Really
If you like Hugill or not he scores goals fact
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Post by The General on Oct 17, 2019 10:21:58 GMT
Yes wages would be an issue before everyone states this but surely we can start to raise the bar a bit now
Need to sign Wells also some how
Amit come on make this happen man
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Post by esoxlucius on Oct 17, 2019 10:29:08 GMT
Yes wages would be an issue before everyone states this but surely we can start to raise the bar a bit now Need to sign Wells also some how Amit come on make this happen man Why can we start to raise the bar now? |
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Post by esoxlucius on Oct 17, 2019 10:37:36 GMT
Thinking further on it; I would rather we blew any money we may have on getting Nahki Wells signed up, he is definitely the better front man of the two and not just goals.
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Post by Tarbie on Oct 17, 2019 12:01:02 GMT
Never happen mate. Hugill's deal with West Ham has a few seasons to run, and from what I've heard is over double that of our highest earner. Even our contribution to Hugill's wage makes him one of our most expensive players. Manning is probably on about 10% of what Hugill is earning.
With the above in mind, even if a straight swap was appealing to West Ham (which is also a big if), from a contractual point of view its totally impossible unless Hugill wants to take a drop in salary (which he wont) or West Ham want to subsidise his wages for the remainder of his contract.
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Post by spongeparr on Oct 17, 2019 12:05:49 GMT
Why would WHU want Manning when they have Cresswell?
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Post by Tarbie on Oct 17, 2019 12:11:22 GMT
Why would WHU want Manning when they have Cresswell? Maybe they want to play him in his actual position? 😂 To be fair, I could so see why a side would want him as a squad player. He can cover left back and all across the midfield from the bench! |
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Post by shepherdsmush on Oct 17, 2019 12:41:34 GMT
Would rather keep Manning than swap for Hugill.
Far easier to get a PL striker on loan than find a decent attacking full back.
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Post by acricketer on Oct 17, 2019 13:24:01 GMT
I'm hoping we are in a good position going into January with a genuine chance of top 6 and deciding to give it a go by waiting to sell in the Summer. Surely we have to show some ambition?
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Post by Tarbie on Oct 17, 2019 14:10:34 GMT
I'm hoping we are in a good position going into January with a genuine chance of top 6 and deciding to give it a go by waiting to sell in the Summer. Surely we have to show some ambition? Depends on the contract situation though. Manning's contract expires in the summer, but I believe there is a 1 year option to extend. Doesn't sound set in stone to me. If there is any chance he could walk in the summer we'd be smarter to sell with sell on clause in January. |
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Post by esoxlucius on Oct 17, 2019 14:39:49 GMT
I'm hoping we are in a good position going into January with a genuine chance of top 6 and deciding to give it a go by waiting to sell in the Summer. Surely we have to show some ambition? Depends on the contract situation though. Manning's contract expires in the summer, but I believe there is a 1 year option to extend. Doesn't sound set in stone to me. If there is any chance he could walk in the summer we'd be smarter to sell with sell on clause in January. In a recent interview he said he was very happy with his playing time and learning his role in the side. I think, at the moment, he would be happy to sign an extended contract and get regular first team football over sitting on the bench waiting to come on as a utility sub. |
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Post by lymehoop on Oct 17, 2019 14:56:42 GMT
last swap we had with them we got right done over
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Oct 17, 2019 15:15:31 GMT
Mannings agent seems to be doing a good job at the moment.
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Post by Tarbie on Oct 17, 2019 15:16:42 GMT
Depends on the contract situation though. Manning's contract expires in the summer, but I believe there is a 1 year option to extend. Doesn't sound set in stone to me. If there is any chance he could walk in the summer we'd be smarter to sell with sell on clause in January. In a recent interview he said he was very happy with his playing time and learning his role in the side. I think, at the moment, he would be happy to sign an extended contract and get regular first team football over sitting on the bench waiting to come on as a utility sub. Easy said when there isn't a better offer on the table somewhere else mate. I hope you are right though. Even for his sake, Manning is better served learning his trade here than warming the bench for a Prem side. As I've said a few times though. The cynic in me always questions the validity of some of these rumours. The press are lazy and it's in the best interest of the agent and the player to make it appear that there are interested parties when its close to time for a new deal. |
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Post by The General on Oct 17, 2019 15:21:11 GMT
My main concern is that we will not secure either Hugill or Wells as we piss about so much really with things.
We need to keep a good strike force in place its critical if we want to be a top six club in the future.
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Post by Tarbie on Oct 17, 2019 15:35:06 GMT
My main concern is that we will not secure either Hugill or Wells as we piss about so much really with things. We need to keep a good strike force in place its critical if we want to be a top six club in the future. I think Nakhi Wells will sign a contract here mate. Why wouldn't he? Settled, playing well. We'll pay him as well as anyone else who would be interested in him would be likely to. Yeah, it'll be a load less than he's earning right now, but he's facing a big drop wherever he goes. Hugill, I doubt West Ham will be able to offload him if what I've heard about his contract is true. Unless any sides near the top of the Championship or the bottom of the Premiership think he's worth the outlay in a push for goals 2nd half of the season. He's on a genuine Premiership contract. West Ham may end up stuck with him, recouping part of what they are paying by loaning him out until his deal expires. |
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Post by The General on Oct 17, 2019 15:39:11 GMT
Tarbs do you remember when we sold Clive Allen to Arsenal and he was resold to Crystal Palace 48hrs later without playing a game or training session for them.
WTF was all that about
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Post by West Acton on Oct 17, 2019 15:43:59 GMT
Never going happen. If a prem side are genuinely interested then they’re crazy
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Oct 17, 2019 15:49:28 GMT
Never going happen. If a prem side are genuinely interested then they’re crazy Bit harsh, Manning hasn't been bad at all this season. |
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Post by West Acton on Oct 17, 2019 15:50:54 GMT
Never going happen. If a prem side are genuinely interested then they’re crazy Bit harsh, Manning hasn't been bad at all this season. but not prem standard lets be honest Ginge Very good going forward (far better then I expected) equally as bad defending |
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Oct 17, 2019 16:06:13 GMT
Bit harsh, Manning hasn't been bad at all this season. but not prem standard lets be honest Ginge Very good going forward (far better then I expected) equally as bad defending Yeah agreed. But if we can get a decent wedge for him I'm confident Warby can get a couple of good players in. |
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Post by Tarbie on Oct 17, 2019 16:16:08 GMT
Tarbs do you remember when we sold Clive Allen to Arsenal and he was resold to Crystal Palace 48hrs later without playing a game or training session for them. WTF was all that about I wasn't even born mate! 😂 |
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 17, 2019 16:59:51 GMT
Tarbs do you remember when we sold Clive Allen to Arsenal and he was resold to Crystal Palace 48hrs later without playing a game or training session for them. WTF was all that about I wasn't even born mate! 😂 Was just gonna say. It was just a bit before your time!  I just about remember it though. A real odd one, probably some kind of Gregory/Venables/Allison arrangement - all three of whom were partial to a bit of wheeler dealing. Reminded me of the more recent Samba deal involving that other wheeler dealer. |
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I just about remember it though. A real odd one, probably some kind of Gregory/Venables/Allison arrangement - all three of whom were partial to a bit of wheeler dealing. Reminded me of the more recent Samba deal involving that other wheeler dealer.