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Post by Tarbie on Apr 14, 2019 9:09:26 GMT
Manning is a player I've been quite critical of in the past. I personally don't think he's good enough to play central midfield at this level, but after 2 very solid games at left back, could he be a genuine option instead of Bidwell?
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 14, 2019 9:13:50 GMT
On current form, and in a 4-3-3 - yes.
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 14, 2019 9:17:16 GMT
I'll withhold judgement myself until I'm seen him play left back against a stronger side. So far, he looks better there than he ever has in midfield for me though.
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Post by jfrabbit on Apr 14, 2019 10:20:58 GMT
I like Manning. Got a lot of grit about him. Would hope he flourishes and can displace the haphazard Bidwell.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2019 11:18:52 GMT
Part of a back four with back to back clean sheets. Bidwell for me is woeful and needs to have played his last game for us.
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Post by West Acton on Apr 14, 2019 14:11:22 GMT
Good thread. I like Tarbs have not rated him and still think he comes up short in midfield but I can actually see him being fairly decent LB if coached. Would do less damage in that position
He’s been pretty good last two games so let’s see if that continues on Friday
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Apr 14, 2019 16:48:37 GMT
Not a fan of Manning but even less of a fan of Bidwell. Give Manning more games there imo.
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Post by Shania on Apr 14, 2019 18:27:53 GMT
Manning`s focus is on the ball, not the player which is a plus one to one...(I should believe)
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 14, 2019 19:56:46 GMT
He'll get properly tested defensively against Derby, if he's still getting the nod at that point!
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Post by hubble on Apr 15, 2019 7:24:50 GMT
Blackburn Friday will be a good test to see if all the new-found hope we've invested in the players and manager is grounded in reality and this will apply to Manning particularly. A consistent run in the starting 11 and in that position should boost his confidence and I can see him claiming the left back position if he keeps on improving.
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Post by alanwycombe on Apr 15, 2019 7:49:35 GMT
Way out of position most of the time but that can be taught. Better second half in front of the bench.
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Post by Brian Wilson on May 3, 2019 12:21:33 GMT
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Post by Maidstone_Hoop on May 4, 2019 9:55:29 GMT
I rate manning - very harshly treated by McClaren just Like Smyth this year. He was a stand out player for Rotherham playing CM for them in the first half of the season and even scored a couple of goals.
He’s done well at LB but I think given some faith and a run of games he could be a decent player in the center of the park.
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Post by shepherdsmush on Jun 26, 2019 9:57:20 GMT
Think him and Leistner could be a very decent partnership. Furlong and Wallace will probably be the fullbacks with Rangel backup. Hope Manning gets a chance to impress at lb as well. Would prefer Manning in midfield when Luongo goes but agree he is a decent back-up for Wallace. |
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Post by Tarbie on Jun 26, 2019 16:47:09 GMT
Think him and Leistner could be a very decent partnership. Furlong and Wallace will probably be the fullbacks with Rangel backup. Hope Manning gets a chance to impress at lb as well. Would prefer Manning in midfield when Luongo goes but agree he is a decent back-up for Wallace. Big year for Manning. With Luongo, Freeman and Cousins all gone (or probably going) he's been thrust from the fringes of the squad to almost nailed on 1st 11. I hope he can step up to the mark! |
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Post by West Acton on Jun 26, 2019 18:11:03 GMT
If manning don’t cut mustard under his third manager do we accept he’s actually not all that and ship him on?
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Post by Tarbie on Jun 26, 2019 18:13:17 GMT
If manning don’t cut mustard under his third manager do we accept he’s actually not all that and ship him on? Surely it's make or break for him this year mate? I'm still unconvinced, as I know you are. But given the situation, I'm sure he will be given a chance. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Jun 26, 2019 20:13:02 GMT
If manning don’t cut mustard under his third manager do we accept he’s actually not all that and ship him on? I know you don't rate him Wests but assuming Warbs gives him a chance, I'd like to see him given a run in CM under the new manager and coach. One thing that can't be denied is he has scored goals for us from midfield. |
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Post by West Acton on Jun 26, 2019 20:27:48 GMT
Wardley scored goals but was ugly player
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Post by Corbray on Jun 26, 2019 20:35:05 GMT
i don't think any manager including ollie has properly given manning a run in the team but in the same breath where is his best position? with freeman off and luongo looking like he's heading out the door then you'd imagine manning would be a cm for us.
he's a very versatile player though either way who i think we'd be mad to get rid of.
big year for him this is and i hope he gets given a proper run in the side
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Post by Tarbie on Jun 26, 2019 21:51:10 GMT
i don't think any manager including ollie has properly given manning a run in the team but in the same breath where is his best position? with freeman off and luongo looking like he's heading out the door then you'd imagine manning would be a cm for us. he's a very versatile player though either way who i think we'd be mad to get rid of. big year for him this is and i hope he gets given a proper run in the side He was given a decent run next to Luongo by Ollie 2 seasons back wasn't he mate? I remember seeing him play centre mid against Huddersfield and left the game feeling he was well out of his depth. That said, he was a young lad thrown into the side. Hopefully he's come on a bit since then! |
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Post by Corbray on Jun 26, 2019 22:01:01 GMT
i don't think any manager including ollie has properly given manning a run in the team but in the same breath where is his best position? with freeman off and luongo looking like he's heading out the door then you'd imagine manning would be a cm for us. he's a very versatile player though either way who i think we'd be mad to get rid of. big year for him this is and i hope he gets given a proper run in the side He was given a decent run next to Luongo by Ollie 2 seasons back wasn't he mate? I remember seeing him play centre mid against Huddersfield and left the game feeling he was well out of his depth. That said, he was a young lad thrown into the side. Hopefully he's come on a bit since then! ollie did play him more than anyone else for sure but i can't recall him ever starting more than 2-3 games in a row except for the end of last season. he has had some piss poor games for us though for sure but tbh who hasn't? he's still relatively young but nows the time that we have to start giving him game time especially in our current state. thinking of it logically he's almost guarenteed to be a starter next season alongside scowen or holt most likely which seems a bit unnerving to me |
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Post by shepherdsmush on Jun 27, 2019 9:11:21 GMT
Manning is about the only midfielder I've seen in recent times that will actually try a forward pass. Certain starter for me.
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Post by Tarbie on Jul 31, 2019 8:34:14 GMT
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Jul 31, 2019 8:36:39 GMT
I guess we'll see! Maybe Warbs can get something out of him, I've been disappointed with Manning in that position whenever I've seen him. |
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Post by Corbray on Jul 31, 2019 8:40:14 GMT
i think manning has earned his chance at LB. hes done a solid job there and has fit into our new style quite well. got a good cross on him too which is what we need.
its still a new position for him so he needs time to get experienced
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Post by Tarbie on Jul 31, 2019 8:43:12 GMT
I haven't seen enough of pre-season to really comment. But I think Manning did reasonably well when asked to play Left Back last season. I think (from what I've seen) I prefer him there to Central Midfield.
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Post by Stanley75 on Jul 31, 2019 9:35:01 GMT
This confirms what I took from the meeting with MW. Wallace will be first choice once fit, but in the mean time he's very happy with Manning as deputy. His main strength being having a good left foot i.e. passing and crossing. Defensively he got turned quite easily vs Watford a couple of times, so we do need to be mindful of that.
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Post by hal9thou on Jul 31, 2019 9:39:24 GMT
Manning is utility. No one has really worked out what to do with him. His problem is exactly why you have to be careful about overstocking utility players, too many and no one knows their arse from their elbow on or off the park.
Having said that, LB is as good a shout as any. There is no way I'd start him as WB.
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Post by Tarbie on Jul 31, 2019 9:50:03 GMT
Manning is utility. No one has really worked out what to do with him. His problem is exactly why you have to be careful about overstocking utility players, too many and no one knows their arse from their elbow on or off the park. Having said that, LB is as good a shout as any. There is no way I'd start him as WB. I think you are pretty safe on that one Hal.........Warburton almost always plays 4 at the back! |
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