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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 26, 2023 18:00:06 GMT
He must wish he’d stayed at Liverpool
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 26, 2023 18:01:56 GMT
He must wish he’d stayed at Liverpool na he very happy round stains |
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Post by hal9thou on Jan 26, 2023 19:41:25 GMT
He must wish he’d stayed at Liverpool still think he's time will come, maybe not with us though. After JCS and Balogun he's already our next best bet imo. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 26, 2023 19:58:07 GMT
Feel a bit sorry for him. Another one we’ve ‘developed’ by never picking him, even on the bench occasionally.
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Post by West Acton on Jan 26, 2023 20:50:14 GMT
Not even close to being good enough.
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Post by sparks on Jan 26, 2023 21:00:27 GMT
He’s put on a huge amount of bulk since his injury and hasn’t impressed me when playing for the B side.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 26, 2023 21:27:39 GMT
As in muscle or tarbie timber?
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Post by hal9thou on Jan 26, 2023 22:26:07 GMT
Not even close to being good enough. i get why you say that, but seriously look at the goals we've been conceding...... If you take JCS and Balogun out of the frame, we struggle. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 26, 2023 22:27:43 GMT
Not even close to being good enough. How do we know? He was ok the odd couple of games he played years ago. We’re supposed to improve players, how if they don’t get a chance? |
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Post by jfrabbit on Jan 26, 2023 22:50:32 GMT
Not even close to being good enough. Hmm dunno. When he played for a few games was it last season? I thought he held his own. Unfair to judge him unless he's had a sustained run in the side surely. |
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Post by West Acton on Jan 27, 2023 8:52:17 GMT
Not even close to being good enough. How do we know? He was ok the odd couple of games he played years ago. We’re supposed to improve players, how if they don’t get a chance? well I think I’ve seen every game he’s played for us. Poor in the air, no pace and slow on the turn were my observations. Looked very lightweight to me. Had decent debut and as usual the overhypers jumped on what a prospect he is. No manager has really played him which I think tells us all what we need to know. If he’s the answer to our defence then we’re fucked. |
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Post by Tarbie on Jan 27, 2023 8:58:40 GMT
Add Masterson to the list of players multiple managers have had a look at and didn't fancy.
I thought he looked OK, but I think you have to trust the opinion of the coaching staff that have seen him close up.
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 27, 2023 9:08:39 GMT
So what does that say about our recruitment/DOF? One of many brought in that hasn’t been used - or developed.
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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 27, 2023 9:22:59 GMT
So what does that say about our recruitment/DOF? One of many brought in that hasn’t been used - or developed.  |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 27, 2023 9:35:37 GMT
He was cheap, you get what you pay for. You not going to primark and expecting Gucci
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Post by Tarbie on Jan 27, 2023 9:45:44 GMT
So what does that say about our recruitment/DOF? One of many brought in that hasn’t been used - or developed. I don't think anyone is in denial that our recruitment has largely been poor. That's the nature of not having much dosh to spend though, isn't it? You need to be in point with your scouting and selection process (which I don't think we are) to repeatedly find hidden gems on a budget. We manage it occasionally but for a large part, we take a few punts and most fail. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 27, 2023 9:54:00 GMT
He was cheap, you get what you pay for. The whole point being is this is not always the case when you're skilled in scouting / recruitment, as plenty of other similar sized clubs have shown who have left QPR in their wake. There is actually such a thing as mining for hidden gems. |
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Post by Corbray on Jan 27, 2023 9:57:01 GMT
i think masterson will have a solid career in league 1 tbh. i don't think the club made any wrong moves when signing him as you have to bare in mind liverpool had spent £1m on him from an irish club and put him on their bench a few times so he obviously showed potential.
is what it is though. i thought he looked decent but raw with us but it sadly hasn't worked out for either party.
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Post by Shania on Jan 27, 2023 9:59:24 GMT
What was Banfield really acheiving here? Not much imo.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 27, 2023 10:17:37 GMT
He was cheap, you get what you pay for. The whole point being is this is not always the case when you're skilled in scouting / recruitment, as plenty of other similar sized clubs have shown who have left QPR in their wake. There is actually such a thing as mining for hidden gems. but our scouts arnt top notch either because big clubs employ the cream, so we a home bargains club. As I said I pay what u get for!!!!!! |
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Post by sparks on Jan 27, 2023 10:25:16 GMT
It would be hard not to say Masterson was a definite upgrade when he came in and played over the likes of Cameron, Lynch, and Baptise but has not improved under our coaching.
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Post by spongeparr on Jan 27, 2023 10:55:33 GMT
He was a low risk gamble, the sort that with our budget we have to be making. Looked good, but made a few silly mistakes as he had never played an adult game before joining us (if I have the right person!).
Did well on loans but must not have shown enough to the various managers. Isn't her 25 or so now? Time to let him go, not going to make it with us and he'll do well in league 1. No point keeping him on the wage bill anymore; he's not young, so he's just not good enough.
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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 27, 2023 11:21:51 GMT
The whole point being is this is not always the case when you're skilled in scouting / recruitment, as plenty of other similar sized clubs have shown who have left QPR in their wake. There is actually such a thing as mining for hidden gems. , so we a home bargains club. As I said I pay what u get for!!!!!! Again, there've been plenty of exceptions to that rule too. You just have to be canny and know what you're doing, which other same sized clubs have shown how it can be done successfully. |
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Post by hal9thou on Jan 27, 2023 12:34:53 GMT
Looked good, but made a few silly mistakes 1) He was dropped in by Warburton during a chaotic period - the Lumley & co play out at any cost phase - and did ok considering the dog's breakfast all around him. 2) CBs always take time. I don't think he's top drawer, but I think he's good enough for bench. |
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Post by 1qprdk on Jan 27, 2023 19:23:29 GMT
What was Banfield really acheiving here? Not much imo. He found new places to buy fast food. That's gotta be worth something. |
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Post by Shania on Jan 27, 2023 19:35:24 GMT
What was Banfield really acheiving here? Not much imo. He found new places to buy fast food. That's gotta be worth something.   |
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Post by West Acton on Jan 27, 2023 19:42:23 GMT
Looked good, but made a few silly mistakes 1) He was dropped in by Warburton during a chaotic period - the Lumley & co play out at any cost phase - and did ok considering the dog's breakfast all around him. 2) CBs always take time. I don't think he's top drawer, but I think he's good enough for bench. but good enough for the bench Is not good enough that screams mediocrity. We can’t afford to simply have good enough for the bench players. We want people challenging for the first team as that ups standards and keeps people on their toes. Dykes do shite as he knows there is no pressure or alternative. I want up and coming players to be good enough for the bench before pushing on. Look at our good enough for bench players Thomas shit, hammer shit, duke shit, Albert shit, Bonne gone shit, Kelman shit, midfielder from youth team been at club 100 years and made of glass shit. We’re not getting any better if masterson and his like are the fall back position. As said not good enough. |
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Post by hal9thou on Jan 27, 2023 23:42:18 GMT
1) He was dropped in by Warburton during a chaotic period - the Lumley & co play out at any cost phase - and did ok considering the dog's breakfast all around him. 2) CBs always take time. I don't think he's top drawer, but I think he's good enough for bench. but good enough for the bench Is not good enough that screams mediocrity. We can’t afford to simply have good enough for the bench players. We want people challenging for the first team as that ups standards and keeps people on their toes. Dykes do shite as he knows there is no pressure or alternative. I want up and coming players to be good enough for the bench before pushing on. Look at our good enough for bench players Thomas shit, hammer shit, duke shit, Albert shit, Bonne gone shit, Kelman shit, midfielder from youth team been at club 100 years and made of glass shit. We’re not getting any better if masterson and his like are the fall back position. As said not good enough. sorry lads, just to be clear. I think he should absolutely be challenging for a first team place after JCS & Balogun. I completely agree with you about the rest of them and have moaned about our ambitions as you know. I just think Masterson has a little bit more about him. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 28, 2023 7:13:44 GMT
but good enough for the bench Is not good enough that screams mediocrity. We can’t afford to simply have good enough for the bench players. We want people challenging for the first team as that ups standards and keeps people on their toes. Dykes do shite as he knows there is no pressure or alternative. I want up and coming players to be good enough for the bench before pushing on. Look at our good enough for bench players Thomas shit, hammer shit, duke shit, Albert shit, Bonne gone shit, Kelman shit, midfielder from youth team been at club 100 years and made of glass shit. We’re not getting any better if masterson and his like are the fall back position. As said not good enough. sorry lads, just to be clear. I think he should absolutely be challenging for a first team place after JCS & Balogun. I completely agree with you about the rest of them and have moaned about our ambitions as you know. I just think Masterson has a little bit more about him. And we’ll never know. There is something very wrong here if the player our DOF calls ‘the best finisher at the club’ is sent out on loan when we have a striker problem and a promising youngster from Everton doesn’t get a start before being called shit. Isn’t it the DOF and recruitment that are shit? |
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