Isaac Hayden

It's too late for Isaac, I fear. We already have Colback, Varane, Madsen, Field and EDB. Before we signed Madsen and Varane I would have said 100% yes, but I don't think his wages could be justified now.

I thought I read somewhere that negotiations broke down.

He can't play for anyone but Newcastle until January anyway. Doubt very much any Championship side are gonna want to pick up his salary until December at the earliest.

Interesting. Would love Hayden and think he is the missing link. But it would leave some expensive players twiddling their thumbs like Varane and Saito so agree hard to justify with budgets.

also if we had:

Field Hayden

Dembele Masden Chair

It means playing Dembele on the right when he is better in the middle. As think Masden plays either left or central.

Only if he became a free agent before the window closed mate. 

You have to question what Hayden has been up to. He was told ages ago that he would not feature for NU and would train with their development squad. He was after pay-off but probably pushed it too far and Newcastle played hard ball.

Now he is out of the game until January although there are some obscure places he could still go to play but at League 1 quality and nowhere near his salary.

2 ways to look at it - he has either shot himself in the foot or will end up a with a highly paid 3 month holiday - but then he is getting older and his chances of getting highly paid job will have dropped.

Personally think he is too late for us and too expensive. We have signed good players who will develop and will have a sell. on value.

If I were Newcastle I wouldn't pay him off in full. It would mean paying the salary in one go - a very significant sum. Works out slightly cheaper for them to pay it monthly. Am surprised they didn't loan him out tho. Even if a Championship club paid a third of the salary, say, its better than nothing. Doesn't suit anyone him just rotting in their reserves.

Newcastle should have just loaned him out another season or paid up the difference between Hayden's current salary and what he was offered elsewhere. It's likely what they'll end up having to do to get him off the wage bill anyway. This type of stand off where they're paying his full salary for him to train with the ressies ain't helping anyone.

I get the argument for longer contracts Hal. It's just a risky business. I can't see the logic in giving such a long deal to a player like Hayden. Save it for marquee signings that are likely to have resale value.

i don't think anyone blames the players we had back then for seeing out their contracts but rather blames the club for giving them those contracts in the first place and squandering a huge opportunity.

i hated our moneybags era, most of the players just plodded along picking up their wage and that was bloody annoying to witness. some of them tried like barton ironically enough!

for hayden it is the same sort of thing albeit i don't think he's mocking newcastle by seeing out his contract. he was a good and important player for them back in the day, always gave his all and is still well liked by most newcastle fans who while they would prefer him to go understand his position.

he'd be mad to walk out of that deal at 29 years old. he wouldn't even pick up half of that at another club unless a saudi team decided to sign him. by all accounts he wanted to leave but newcastle weren't prepared to give him a payoff that was acceptable to him so he's just sat put. yeah he's not playing but i imagine that frustration is soothed every time he gets paid lol.

Agreed - I do not blame the players but what I am saying is we blamed the club before for going after these players and no we (not me) want the club to do exactly the same thing or similar for Hayden and is he that good - he stood out in a wreck of a team when he joined last year but if he is that good someone would have taken him on.

I reckon we will see Hayden back should have been the first bit of business done and everything else done around that.

Apparently the Hayden deal has been there to be done all transfer window. Problem is Newcastle don't wanna subsidise it to the extent they did last season. They want him off the books. But that's 2 years of 50 bags a week. Well out of our reach, and probably out of the reach of every club that would want him. Hopefully common sense prevails in January and we can get the deal done. Player like him would make a big difference.

I don't blame the player mate. He's getting 20 bags a week at best here. No sane man walks away from 3m quid worth of contract. Newcastle need to chuck him a handshake for the shortfall and the move happens.