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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 0:47:06 GMT
Released by Swansea prior to the window closing so could be picked up on a free anytime
Knows the club and would add a much needed body in midfield
Think this could be one to keep an eye on
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Post by jfrabbit on Feb 1, 2020 0:50:31 GMT
Wasn’t a fan personally but we are short in the CM position I’ll admit.
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Post by Rangers77 on Feb 1, 2020 1:04:26 GMT
Released by Swansea prior to the window closing so could be picked up on a free anytime Knows the club and would add a much needed body in midfield Think this could be one to keep an eye on Please no.
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Post by Tarbie on Feb 1, 2020 6:29:01 GMT
He's a strange player. Neat and tidy on the ball but no cutting edge about his game. I also felt he wanted to play a bit too deep.
In the English game you want your creative players in the attacking 3rd. The "deep lying playmaker" is not something that has ever really worked here, not that I can recall anyway. A few have tried, Veron at Man Utd being the best example that I can think of. Beckham also tried out the "quarterback role" for a bit, but that failed too.
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Post by West Acton on Feb 1, 2020 6:38:11 GMT
Not for me really poor player which other then adding a body would not improve us. Don’t see point of clearing out smith and Scowen etc to reduce costs to bring in someone on a par with them. Players have got to improve us or it’s pointless
Rather we tried pick up another striker or defender. Think Watford released prodal he was always decent defender.
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Post by Tarbie on Feb 1, 2020 6:53:02 GMT
Not for me really poor player which other then adding a body would not improve us. Don’t see point of clearing out smith and Scowen etc to reduce costs to bring in someone on a par with them. Players have got to improve us or it’s pointless Rather we tried pick up another striker or defender. Think Watford released prodal he was always decent defender. According to Dave Mac we tried our best to keep Smith. Man City wanted to recall him and send him somewhere where he will play more. The Manager also suggested in his interview yesterday that Scowen was sold as there was money on the table and he would have walked for free in the summer. As you say though, being a bit light in midfield isn't a justification for signing a player that proved to be not up to the job in his previous stint with the club. I suspect Warburton will utilise the likes of Bettache, Bansal-McNulty and Dalling rather than looking for free transfers to plug gaps.
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Post by West Acton on Feb 1, 2020 7:02:31 GMT
If a few youth get more opportunities then it could work out well enough
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Post by Tarbie on Feb 1, 2020 7:08:54 GMT
If a few youth get more opportunities then it could work out well enough I don't mind it mate. We just need to make sure we do enough to keep out of trouble. I'm sure we'll strengthen well again in the summer. Warburton has proved to be quite effective in the transfer market so far.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Feb 1, 2020 7:14:50 GMT
I thought he was very good on the ball but very, very lightweight and I think Amos is a better all rounder.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 7:28:05 GMT
He's a strange player. Neat and tidy on the ball but no cutting edge about his game. I also felt he wanted to play a bit too deep. In the English game you want your creative players in the attacking 3rd. The "deep lying playmaker" is not something that has ever really worked here, not that I can recall anyway. A few have tried, Veron at Man Utd being the best example that I can think of. Beckham also tried out the "quarterback role" for a bit, but that failed too. You must have missed Paul Scholes! Possibly the best central midfielder of his generation.
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Post by Tarbie on Feb 1, 2020 7:36:19 GMT
He's a strange player. Neat and tidy on the ball but no cutting edge about his game. I also felt he wanted to play a bit too deep. In the English game you want your creative players in the attacking 3rd. The "deep lying playmaker" is not something that has ever really worked here, not that I can recall anyway. A few have tried, Veron at Man Utd being the best example that I can think of. Beckham also tried out the "quarterback role" for a bit, but that failed too. You must have missed Paul Scholes! Possibly the best central midfielder of his generation. You'd consider him a deep lying play maker? Not for me, he was a proper number 10 in his younger days. Alright, he played a little deeper later in his career, but I wouldn't ever consider him a player that want's to play as deep as say Pirlo or Lothar Matthaus.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 7:53:01 GMT
Yes I would for the last 5 years of his career where he controlled the tempo and pace of the game.
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Post by West Acton on Feb 1, 2020 7:58:38 GMT
Scholes well under rated. For me better then Gerard and Lampard
Was at Wembley when he scored hat trick against Poland. Controlled the game at walking pace
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 8:05:06 GMT
Scholes well under rated. For me better then Gerard and Lampard Was at Wembley when he scored hat trick against Poland. Controlled the game at walking pace Never courted publicity but was a proper footballer. Range of passing was up there with the very very best. Eriksson built the team and idea around Beckham which was definitely the wrong guy as it should have been built around Scholes.
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Post by West Acton on Feb 1, 2020 8:22:27 GMT
Scholes well under rated. For me better then Gerard and Lampard Was at Wembley when he scored hat trick against Poland. Controlled the game at walking pace Never courted publicity but was a proper footballer. Range of passing was up there with the very very best. Eriksson built the team and idea around Beckham which was definitely the wrong guy as it should have been built around Scholes. only flaw was had no idea how to tackle Ginger pirlo
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2020 8:35:37 GMT
Never courted publicity but was a proper footballer. Range of passing was up there with the very very best. Eriksson built the team and idea around Beckham which was definitely the wrong guy as it should have been built around Scholes. only flaw was had no idea how to pass. Ginger pirlo Only flaw was could never tackle. He was Pirlo before Pirlo. Zidane and Davids reckon he was the best they played against. Top player that was never really appreciated except by those who played with him.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Feb 1, 2020 8:36:55 GMT
Now he runs Scotland and keeps going on about independence
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Post by West Acton on Feb 1, 2020 8:46:05 GMT
only flaw was had no idea how to pass. Ginger pirlo Only flaw was could never tackle. He was Pirlo before Pirlo. Zidane and Davids reckon he was the best they played against. Top player that was never really appreciated except by those who played with him. I meant tackle
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2020 9:41:07 GMT
Any news on if he's still training at the club and if considering offering him a deal?
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Post by 72bus on Aug 30, 2020 12:15:02 GMT
LTC one of those players u didn't notice he was on the pitch til 20 mins in , played far to safe and negative for me .
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Post by alanwycombe on Aug 30, 2020 13:07:28 GMT
Released by Swansea prior to the window closing so could be picked up on a free anytime Knows the club and would add a much needed body in midfield Think this could be one to keep an eye on ......in the hope that someone else picks him up before we get any ideas.
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Post by Maidstone_Hoop on Sept 1, 2020 21:34:51 GMT
Am I one of the few who think he could be a solid signing for us. I don’t look at this deal as one of our big incomings but a solid champ player who would add some depth and options to our squad if and when needed.
He’s available on a free and maybe a 1 to 2 year deal on reasonable wages then I can’t see a issue.
I also trust MW and the club if they see something in him and I Imagine Carroll would suit MW’s footballing philosophy.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Sept 1, 2020 21:44:21 GMT
I'm with u my inbred 3 fingered Kent cousin. Can't hurt,knows club,matured,played at higher level.
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Post by acricketer on Sept 1, 2020 21:45:11 GMT
"I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member!" Groucho Marx
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Sept 1, 2020 22:29:00 GMT
"I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member!" Groucho MarxWhich is where the club Grouchos got its name allegedly. Its a great quote.
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Post by Corbray on Sept 2, 2020 8:40:03 GMT
wouldn't mind him here as he's a good player at this level who's gotten better since his spell with us a few years back. one of the main things we're lacking is someone who can pass well.
i hope we take a look at marcus maddison as he's a great player imo, although i've heard he has a bit of an attitude problem
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Post by Tarbie on Sept 2, 2020 9:10:28 GMT
Having reflected on this one a bit, I don't think Carroll would be a terrible signing. He's a good footballer and that's half the battle for Warburton. Don't necessarily think he'll improve or even regularly make our starting 11 but he would add a bit of experience, he knows the division and the club, plus he wouldn't break the bank. We certainly need a more combatative central midfielder added to the squad too.
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Post by Shania on Sept 2, 2020 9:25:14 GMT
Like the Wednesday midfielder he is probably just training with us.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Sept 2, 2020 9:41:09 GMT
Having reflected on this one a bit, I don't think Carroll would be a terrible signing. He's a good footballer and that's half the battle for Warburton. Don't necessarily think he'll improve or even regularly make our starting 11 but he would add a bit of experience, he knows the division and the club, plus he wouldn't break the bank. We certainly need a more combatative central midfielder added to the squad too. [br The worm has turned😊
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Post by Tarbie on Sept 2, 2020 9:48:52 GMT
Having reflected on this one a bit, I don't think Carroll would be a terrible signing. He's a good footballer and that's half the battle for Warburton. Don't necessarily think he'll improve or even regularly make our starting 11 but he would add a bit of experience, he knows the division and the club, plus he wouldn't break the bank. We certainly need a more combatative central midfielder added to the squad too. [br The worm has turned😊 Never been hugely critical of Tom Carroll mate. I just don't think he's that good. Nothing wrong with his ability, he just doesn't offer that much.
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